What to do if vaccines are mandated?

[usmcveteran]

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Why aren't the numbers being reported for the same time frame in the unvaccinated? Also why do they show so much further out after recovery then those who have had vaccine as well? Graphs look a little misleading. Looking at the data I have to assume those who have had covid without any vaccine are actually at lower risk long term except for maybe group who recovered and got vaxxed. But even then reinfection is typically mild according to experts.

[usmcveteran]

Oh and with the rates being so close it doesn't seem like mandatory vaccination is warranted at all for those with previous infection.

[Norm Deguerre x2]

I sense that You have a particular interest in this ????

[WARFAB]

Looking at the data I have to assume those who have had covid without any vaccine are actually at lower risk long term except for maybe group who recovered and got vaxxed.

The only apples to apples comparison across 3 out of the 4 groups listed is at 6-8 months. Not enough data for any other time frames, but natural immunity data is looking very positive over the longest time frame.

The difference between recovered and recovered then vaxxed at 6-8 months appears to be pretty much within the margin of error.

The article I got the graph from:
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/a...pfizer-vaccine

Unless the Omicron variant doesn't grant the same levels of immunity that previous variants do, It looks like Omicron will be the 'vaccine' of choice providing the most protection with the fewest symptoms.

[usmcveteran]

I thought this was an interesting read in the sense that it doesn't seem to match up with the narrative.

https://www.news-medical.net/health/...-SARS-CoV.aspx

[WARFAB]

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[WARFAB]

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[usmcveteran]

I wonder if they can continue to justify mandates when the vaccine doesn't work on the dominant strain?

[thughes]

I wonder if they can continue to justify mandates when the vaccine doesn't work on the dominant strain?

Vaccine doesn't work, masks don't work, testing doesn't work. When are they going to accept the fact that it's here to stay and just move on with life again? If a totally isolated population of fully vaccinated and negative tested persons on a boat in the middle of the goddam ocean can still get the virus somehow and have it spread into a full-fledged outbreak, how in the f uck do they think they are going to stop this? SMFH

".....several cases in which cruises that required all passengers to be fully vaccinated and tested for COVID-19 saw outbreaks of the virus and a U.S. Navy ship with a crew that the Navy said was "100% immunized" had a COVID-19 outbreak that infected nearly 25% of its crew."


https://www.whec.com/news/cdc-sugges...45963/?cat=565

[Norm Deguerre x2]

Questions that no one will wish to address, thug
Great analysis. ????

[WARFAB]

Haven't listened to the Joe Rogan podcast with Dr. Malone yet. Kind of nervous about listening to it.

I really don't want all the conspiracy theories to be true.

[Norm Deguerre x2]

Great topic, MC 1000 views !!

[WARFAB]

The initial snippets I'm seeing about SCOTUS oral arguments on the mandate aren't terribly encouraging.

Sounds like the lib justices are convinced that Covid cases are surging nationwide and the vaccine actually prevents transmission. Not that either incorrect factor has anything to do with whether or not the mandate is constitutional.

[usmcveteran]

Haven't fact checked this but if legitimate then the lies are worse then even I expected.
https://www.clarkcountytoday.com/new...arm-than-good/

[WARFAB]

I've heard similar things. Based on numbers alone, there's no way for anyone to really know what's going on.

Data showing a high incidence of people getting 'infected' within 21 days of getting the jab could be explained by the jabs actually weakening immune systems through Antibody Dependent Enhancement.

[dwa12479]

The initial snippets I'm seeing about SCOTUS oral arguments on the mandate aren't terribly encouraging.

Sounds like the lib justices are convinced that Covid cases are surging nationwide and the vaccine actually prevents transmission. Not that either incorrect factor has anything to do with whether or not the mandate is constitutional.

Listening to Breyer, Kagan, and Sotomayor spew complete nonsense was chilling. These people are going to part of a massive decision for this country and are so ill-informed its disturbing.

[Norm Deguerre x2]

And ...
they don't care..they are important people, not you, you lowly miscreant

[WARFAB]

Robert Barnes pointed out that there's a lot of old and overweight judges ruling on Covid mandates. They're letting their personal risk factors influence their decision for everyone else.

Aside from their political leaning, Kagan and Sotomayor also fit the physique profile.