Biden Vaccine Mandates

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[Cgrutt]

Ok let's take a step back and ask ourselves why anyone is taking the ramblings of an old man clearly in advanced state of dementia seriously to begin with. Clearly unconstitutional. One has to wonder what end game his handlers have in mind keep poking the bear. Oh, and **** You Joe Biden.

[usmcveteran]

Ok let's take a step back and ask ourselves why anyone is taking the ramblings of an old man clearly in advanced state of dementia seriously to begin with. Clearly unconstitutional. One has to wonder what end game his handlers have in mind keep poking the bear. Oh, and **** You Joe Biden.

Great post!

[camper4lyfe]

Even being vaccinated, I’m pretty pissed at the mandates. It’s pretty solid bullPeshitta.

[thughes]

Even being vaccinated, I’m pretty pissed at the mandates. It’s pretty solid bullPeshitta.

Yep! I'm neither pro nor anti.....I'm free choice. When the option to chose is removed, either explicitly or through these rather circuitous mandates which force business owners to carry out the government's bidding, it's time to pick up arms and push back.....'cause this sh it is tyranny.

[usmcveteran]

Good news is that companies can't say testing weekly for unvaccinated employees is undue burden on business now so unvaccinated have that to be greatful for but that's about it. Also employers under current laws are required to pay employees for their time to get tested for covid if it required for work like it will be.

Curious of OSHA also plans on still ignoring rule saying employers have to report vaccine reactions for employees mandates to get vaccine. They are ignoring the rule currently so they don't appear to do anything that would make employers not want to vaccinate employees.

It's all BullPeshitta and political and not even about science anymore.

Again by definition since they don't provide immunity these are vaccines!

[usmcveteran]

Ok I call bullPePeshittata here. Whitehouse /CDC changed the name of the game. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.mia...254111268.html

So they changed definition of vaccine and if you read article they claim they covid vaccine was never meant to provide immunity but prevent serious illness and hospitalizations.


?????So I guess mononuclear treatment is now a vaccine as it prevents 70% of hospitalizations when given after you get covid. https://www.whitehouse.gov/covidplan/
"Monoclonal antibody treatments have been shown to reduce the risk of hospitalization by up to 70% for unvaccinated people at risk of developing severe disease"
granted protection last one month to 6 months but hey that's about as effective as "vaccine" against some of the strains now.

That meets the definition of vaccine now too!
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/imz-basics.htm

[WARFAB]

This is some seriously Orwellian nonsense.

[WARFAB]

The fact that they're doubling down on all of this instead of flip flopping for political expediency has me a bit concerned.

[usmcveteran]

I don't think they'll stop until everyone is vaccinated. When they doesn't work they'll blame it on people who took to long to get vaccinated ingnoring the fact they knew it wouldn't work and that other countries are going to produce variants that defeat "vaccines" and we're back to square one like we are now.

I also predict that after the OSHA rule is in effect they will remove the test out option at some point probably not to far into future like they did with government employees. Probably say it's undue burden on business or something like that. This doesn't have to stand test of time and court scrutiny. Once you get the vaccine you can't un get it .

[usmcveteran]

Oh and booster mandates will be coming in next few months probably as well.

[usmcveteran]

Someone forgot to update their glossary of terms!
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/terms/glossary.html
Vaccine: Listen media icon[MP3] A suspension of live (usually attenuated) or inactivated microorganisms (e.g. bacteria or viruses) or fractions thereof administered to induce immunity and prevent infectious diseases and their sequelae. Some vaccines contain highly defined antigens (e.g., the polysaccharide of Haemophilus influenzae type b or the surface antigen of hepatitis B); others have antigens that are complex or incompletely defined (e.g. Bordetella pertussis antigens or live attenuated viruses).

[usmcveteran]

Gets better. new CDC definition doesn't fit with what CDC, hhs, and vaccine expert claim is generally accepted definition of vaccine.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.kin...0-c8e63bd0c636

"THE QUESTION Do existing COVID-19 vaccines fail to meet the medical definition of vaccines and can they alter DNA?

THE ANSWER
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Department of Health and Human Services and a vaccinology expert confirm there is no single medical definition of a vaccine, but COVID-19 vaccines meet the generally accepted criteria that requires a vaccine to prevent disease by building immunity.

They cannot change your DNA.

WHY ARE WE VERIFYING
Claims online are spreading misinformation about the safety of the COVID-19 vaccine stemming from confusion around how the vaccine utilizes mRNA to help you build immunity. People have falsely claimed…"

So for the CDC to claim that the revision of the definition was for transperancy and that the actual definition has not changed is misleading to say the least.

[WARFAB]

Gets better.

Or worse, depending on your perspective.

[usmcveteran]

According to CDC as of September 7th of 2021 the covid vaccine produces antibodies that have the same response that natural infection causes. So there is no difference according to CDC, guess I don't need to get vaccine after all!

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...nes/facts.html

Is the mRNA vaccine considered a vaccine? Yes. mRNA vaccines, such as Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna, work differently than other types of vaccines, but they still trigger an immune response inside your body. This type of vaccine is new, but research and development on it has been under way for decades.

mRNA-graphics
The mRNA vaccines do not contain any live virus. Instead, they work by teaching our cells to make a harmless piece of a “spike protein,” which is found on the surface of the virus that causes COVID-19. After making the protein piece, cells display it on their surface. Our immune system then recognizes that it does not belong there and responds to get rid of it. When an immune response begins, antibodies are produced, creating the same response that happens in a natural infection.

vaccine-graphic
In contrast to mRNA vaccines, many other vaccines use a piece of, or weakened version of, the germ that the vaccine protects against. This is how the measles and flu vaccines work. When a weakened or small part of the virus is introduced to your body, you make antibodies to help protect against future infection.

[WARFAB]

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