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    As most of you know I recently took Woodbadge, which is a leadership class run by Boy Scouts of America for their adult leaders. The Woodbadge curriculum is divided up into two phases, the first involves 6-days of classes and activities performed with all participants as a group while camping. The second phase involves a series of goals individual participants set for themselves and complete over a period of about eighteen months. The goals are unique in the sense that each participant sets their own goals but must be associated with their leadership position within the BSA. One of my goals involves becoming certified in Basic First Aid/CPR/AED and Wilderness First Aid training that would benefit our Troop, particularly during outdoor events such as hiking, backpacking and camping trips. I thought this goal also fits in nicely with the things we care about at AvidArms and I'd talk about them here in the event anybody is interested.

    So for basic First Aid/CPR/AED, there are a number of courses available through the Red Cross and other organizations. I just signed up for a half-day course that provides a two-year certification for both adult and pediatric first aid/CPR/AED. The cost varies based upon provider but are generally about $100-$125 with certification (need to demonstrate skills learned during class to certified trainers). The course is also available without certification for about $25 online. Course covers assessment, CPR, AED, choking, external bleeding, burns, stroke and anaphylaxis. More info here if anybody is interested: http://www.redcross.org/take-a-class/first-aid

    Wilderness First Aid is a 16-18 hour intensive hands-on course aimed to prepare those who venture into outdoors to deal with unexpected medical situations where an EMS response can reasonably be expected within about eight hours. Topics include:
    • Patient Assessment System
    • Evacuation Plans and Emergency Procedures
    • CPR (on some courses)
    • Spinal Cord Injuries
    • Shock
    • Head Injuries
    • Wilderness Wound Management
    • Athletic Injuries
    • Fracture Management
    • Dislocations
    • Cold Injuries
    • Heat Illness
    • Altitude Illness
    • Lightning
    • The Medical Patient
    • Anaphylaxis
    • Wilderness First Aid Kits
    The course is offered by a variety of vendors including Red Cross, Wilderness Safety Counsel (WSC), Wilderness Medicine Institute (WMI), National Outdoor Leadership School (NOLS) and others. Successful completion results in two year certification in Wilderness First Aid. Cost is generally about $225 to $300. I'm registered to take a course offered by WSC in early December at Alpine Scout Camp in NJ along Palisades Parkway. More info here: http://www.wfa.net/what/

    Would be interested in hearing if anybody is interested in learning more about these classes or first aid in general. Maybe we can start a new forum section if there is enough interest. Thanks.

  • #2
    Wow, that's awesome! I've done basic first aid/cpr a couple of times and would love schooling on more advanced techniques.

    Enjoy and please post full reports.
    Athiest. Because... science

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    • #3
      Looks like fun and informative.
      I don't see any deep wound trauma?
      What about tourniquets or even stitching up an artery?
      The problem with tourniquets is that they do not work as well the higher you go.
      It is a shame when people demanding tolerance, have no tolerance

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Meketrefe View Post
        Looks like fun and informative.
        I don't see any deep wound trauma?
        What about tourniquets or even stitching up an artery?
        The problem with tourniquets is that they do not work as well the higher you go.
        Not sure if this class covers any of that. I did take a penetrating trauma class hosted by Chris Fry a while back that was awesome. We learned about tourniquets, suturing and others in that class but no certification. The Wilderness First Aid is aimed at treating and stabilizing in prep for EMS within a relatively short period from injury. There is an advanced class that I'd like to take that deals with situations where EMS is not available or days away. That course is 40 hrs over 5 days. Baby steps...

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        • #5
          two very important items to have is quick clot and a tactical tourniquet , probably the most important as well.
          I'm confused!!!!!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Sailor Jerry View Post
            two very important items to have is quick clot and a tactical tourniquet , probably the most important as well.
            Plus the knowledge of when to use them and when not to use them.

            For example... if someone has a head wound that won't stop bleeding, you should not put a TQ around their neck.
            Athiest. Because... science

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            • #7
              Originally posted by 24Pink14Stink View Post

              Plus the knowledge of when to use them and when not to use them.

              For example... if someone has a head wound that won't stop bleeding, you should not put a TQ around their neck.
              Unfortunately in that case it is very unlikely there is anything that can be done without professional medical help and facilities. Large uncontrolled head wounds weren't even covered in Fry's class. Move on to somebody that can be helped...

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              • #8
                Haha. I was joking. Only my mom got my sense of humor...
                Athiest. Because... science

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by 24Pink14Stink View Post

                  Plus the knowledge of when to use them and when not to use them.

                  For example... if someone has a head wound that won't stop bleeding, you should not put a TQ around their neck.
                  That's not how you stop a nose bleed?
                  Beer is like porn, you can buy it but it's more fun to make your own

                  I have to bend over too far

                  I get a boner.

                  bareback every couple of days, GTG. Bareback, brokeback, same $hit!

                  I joined a support group to help me deal with my social anxiety but I just can't seem to work up the nerve to go to a meeting......

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by thughes View Post

                    That's not how you stop a nose bleed?
                    Nope, but it does keep the air from escaping your lungs...
                    Athiest. Because... science

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by 24Pink14Stink View Post

                      Nope, but it does keep the air from escaping your lungs...
                      That's a good thing, right?
                      Beer is like porn, you can buy it but it's more fun to make your own

                      I have to bend over too far

                      I get a boner.

                      bareback every couple of days, GTG. Bareback, brokeback, same $hit!

                      I joined a support group to help me deal with my social anxiety but I just can't seem to work up the nerve to go to a meeting......

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                      • #12
                        Hey CG, my GF signed us up for the New York State’s Civilian Preparedness Training Program this Thursday night (there may be hope for that girl yet!)......you took that course didn't you?
                        Beer is like porn, you can buy it but it's more fun to make your own

                        I have to bend over too far

                        I get a boner.

                        bareback every couple of days, GTG. Bareback, brokeback, same $hit!

                        I joined a support group to help me deal with my social anxiety but I just can't seem to work up the nerve to go to a meeting......

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                        • #13
                          I took Search and Rescue in Community Disasters through Texas A&M/FEMA but it sounds similar. The course was 12 hours over 2 days though. It was excellent. Hope you enjoy it!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Cgrutt View Post
                            I took Search and Rescue in Community Disasters through Texas A&M/FEMA but it sounds similar. The course was 12 hours over 2 days though. It was excellent. Hope you enjoy it!
                            This is a 2 hour citizens class, looks like a good start to getting the GF into the prepper mindset:

                            http://www.dhses.ny.gov/aware-prepare/nysprepare/
                            Beer is like porn, you can buy it but it's more fun to make your own

                            I have to bend over too far

                            I get a boner.

                            bareback every couple of days, GTG. Bareback, brokeback, same $hit!

                            I joined a support group to help me deal with my social anxiety but I just can't seem to work up the nerve to go to a meeting......

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                            • #15
                              Thanks for posting! Always good to have that type of knowledge and hope you never need to use it.
                              "I see Nuthhink..... I know nuthink!!!!!"

                              I still have problems.

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