Fiberglass AR Gun Stock

[PY-Tactical]

Since I'd like to return to my original intention of making a fiberglass stock, could the mods please move these disparaging posts to the sister thread on NYF?
Rather discuss legalities over there and keep NYS pure...
Thanks so much.😊

[RayKnobs]

Really?

[camper4lyfe]

Since I'd like to return to my original intention of making a fiberglass stock, could the mods please move these disparaging posts to the sister thread on NYF?
Rather discuss legalities over there and keep NYS pure...
Thanks so much.😊

I think what Ray's really trying to get at is to point out that you need to think long and hard about your design, and be prepared for any legal ramifications due to the vague nature of the law(s) that we now live under.

[RayKnobs]

This isn't "your cat hammock isn't going to support overweight cats" Your project has real legal ramifications.
Cleansing your post of any mention of legal implications to keep it "pure" is dangerous to someone else who might try to replicate your design.

You seem to be offended by this discussion. You know the risks and have accepted them. Don't assume everyone else does.

[PY-Tactical]

I think what Ray's really trying to get at is to point out that you need to think long and hard about your design, and be prepared for any legal ramifications due to the vague nature of the law(s) that we now live under.

"Think long and hard"
Isn't that what got Doc Evil banned on NYF?

[camper4lyfe]

Beats me

[WARFAB]

Haven't we beaten the risks and vagueness of the law to death by now? Everyone is aware the law sucks. It's also vague. At what point is a thumb wrapped around and when isn't it? Who the heck knows. How about instead of assuming the vagueness of the law places MORE burden on our rights, we assume it places less?

I didn't see PY offering any legal advice or guarantees, so those who attempt to replicate the design do so at their own risk. Considering how many "pure" SAFE act arrests there have been so far, I'm a little shocked to see how whipped some people are on this matter.

What ever happened to the cries of "We will not comply"? Now you've got a guy posting his idea about how to comply and he's getting criticized for not complying enough? Seriously?

[PY-Tactical]

Hey, I looked many times at the Penal law 265 and 400 and found no definition of "hole" or angle of inclination that rules being a rifle grip.
So I'll just say that Kids, don't try this at home.

[RayKnobs]

Now you've got a guy posting his idea about how to comply

My position is it doesn't comply. If I saw you doing something dangerous I would warn you also.

Perhaps this could be split into a home made stock compliance discussion now that it's become a thing and is overtaking the intention of a DIY project post.

[PY-Tactical]

My position is it doesn't comply. If I saw you doing something dangerous I would warn you also.

Perhaps this could be split into a home made stock compliance discussion now that it's become a thing and is overtaking the intention of a DIY project post.

I agree with starting another thread somewhere other than Gunsmithing if discussing legalities. I haven't even carved out my plug yet or secured all the materials. If anything, a technical thread should be kept pure and uncrowded by legal discussions, I would rather it be the technical issues of fabrication I have yet to run into.

[RayKnobs]

I see your point and agree

[PY-Tactical]

Ordered a standard available recoil pad to use to carve the plug to fit. Is 1/2" thick. Could not see reinventing the wheel.

[Cgrutt]

Since I'd like to return to my original intention of making a fiberglass stock, could the mods please move these disparaging posts to the sister thread on NYF?
Rather discuss legalities over there and keep NYS pure...
Thanks so much.😊

First time I'm seeing this thread. I agree with your intent of keeping the thread clean and on topic. With that said I also see the merit in Ray's comments, don't think he was posting to start an argument or anything, and makes a valid point about others seeing what you're doing and trying to replicate it without considering other factors that may have ramifications. My preference is not to delete any threads (the whole censorship thing none of us like). So Ray said his peace, let's just all play nice together and enjoy a project thread for a change. Thanks for posting BTW!

[GUNSICK]

Ordered a standard available recoil pad to use to carve the plug to fit. Is 1/2" thick. Could not see reinventing the wheel.

For the receiver?

[PY-Tactical]

First time I'm seeing this thread. I agree with your intent of keeping the thread clean and on topic. With that said I also see the merit in Ray's comments, don't think he was posting to start an argument or anything, and makes a valid point about others seeing what you're doing and trying to replicate it without considering other factors that may have ramifications. My preference is not to delete any threads (the whole censorship thing none of us like). So Ray said his piece, let's just all play nice together and enjoy a project thread for a change. Thanks for posting BTW!

I wasn't all that serious about moving or deleting the opposing posts. I believe my response to the comments were as restrained as I could have been. This was all argued to death on NYF a year ago. Just want this to be a technical journal on my fray into a fiberglass project. This could be applied to any type of stock so arguing about legalities is something I would rather not do here in "Gunsmithing."
I started another thread today in "long guns" dedicated to AR compliant designs so merits could be debated there.
Here I want to record building the plug to make the mould, making the mould, laying up the fiberglass, and finishing.