Bohica

[WARFAB]

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[gtnorry]

Oh boy this passed for semiauto license
https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2021/A10503

[gtnorry]

All 10 bills passed

[big flash]

****;ng hell

[Norm Deguerre x2]

Good thing I have purchased everything that I had a need for long ago Like 1993

[thughes]

Oh boy this passed for semiauto license
https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2021/A10503

Yep! That's the one I started this thread about. Now you're going to need a license to purchase a semi-auto long gun anywhere in NY (just like in NYC)....and you'll have to renew that long gun license just like the pistol permit. SMFH

[thughes]

I wonder how that's going to work going forward? Are you going to have to carry the long gun permit with you in case you're caught in possession of a long gun? What about people that come in other states and bring a semi-auto rifle with them? How do you deal with the millions of semi-auto rifles already owned by NY residents?

Bravo....well thought out piece of legislation they just passed there.

[usmcveteran]

Seems like pistol permit process for rifles.

[usmcveteran]

So if this becomes law then you can't buy any firearms until manufacturers make them with microstamping? Isn't that violation of 2nd amendment preventing sale by requiring something that doesn't even exist?

[WARFAB]

So if this becomes law then you can't buy any firearms until manufacturers make them with microstamping? Isn't that violation of 2nd amendment preventing sale by requiring something that doesn't even exist?

Don't worry USMC. I'm sure the courts will strike down such a blatantly unconstitutional law....after 3-5 years and hundreds of thousands of private dollars get the case before the right judge. In the meantime, I'm sure New York will have passed at least a few more unconstitutional laws that will need to work their way through the court system as well.

Lather, rinse, repeat.

[camper4lyfe]

So if this becomes law then you can't buy any firearms until manufacturers make them with microstamping? Isn't that violation of 2nd amendment preventing sale by requiring something that doesn't even exist?

I’m pretty sure that’s why microstsmping keeps getting thrown out. It doesn’t exist therefore requiring it is a de facto ban

[thughes]

Here's what passed: http://www.gunpoliticsny.com/?page_id=25517

• A-1023A/S-4970A, Requires the creation and imposition of restrictive commercial practices and stringent recordkeeping and reporting to prevent gun and ammunition sales to individuals with a criminal record.
• A-3998/S-687, Clarifies the definition of imitation weapon.
• A-7926A/S-4116A, Requires semiautomatic pistols manufactured or delivered to any licensed dealer in this state to be capable of microstamping ammunition.
• A-8102A/S-6363A, Requires the court to order the search for and immediate seizure of certain firearms when a defendant willfully refuses to surrender such firearms.
• A-8735/S-7760, Requires the Division of Criminal Justice Services to publish quarterly reports providing information related to firearms, rifles and shotguns used in the commission of crimes in the state of New York.
• A-8736/S-7796, Amends the definition of a “disguised gun” to include any firearms designed and intended to appear to be a toy gun.
• A-8741/S-7736, Amends the “Scott J. Beigel Unfinished Receiver Act” relating to unserialized frames or receivers.
• A-8786/S-7705, Criminalizes the sale of ghost guns; requires any person licensed as a gunsmith or a dealer in firearms to register with the Division of Criminal Justice Services any unserialized firearm, rifle or shotgun, finished frame or receiver, or unfinished frame or receiver.
• A-8846/S-7716, Relates to the Firearm Violence Research Institute; makes technical changes to the institute’s procedures, goals and activities.
• A-10428A/S-9229A, Relates to the definition of large capacity ammunition feeding device for purposes of the offense of criminal possession of a weapon in the third degree; and repeals section 265.36 of the penal law.
• A-10497/S-9407B, Relates to the unlawful purchase and the unlawful sale or delivery of a body vest.
• A-10502/S-9113A, Authorizes certain health care providers to file an application for an Extreme Risk Protection Order against a person examined by such health care provider in certain circumstances.
• A-10503/S-9458, Relates to the purchase or taking possession of a semiautomatic rifle; requires a license to purchase or take possession of a semiautomatic rifle; establishes the crimes of criminal purchase of a semiautomatic rifle and criminal sale of a semiautomatic rifle; requires recertification of licenses to purchase or take possession of a semiautomatic rifle every five years.
• A-10504/S-9456, Relates to defining firearm; provides that the term firearm shall also include any other weapon that is not otherwise defined containing any component that provides housing or a structure designed to hold or integrate any fire control component that is designed to or may readily be converted to expel a projectile by action of explosive.

[camper4lyfe]

The stupid, it hurts.

So the already overly taxed county clerks who are months behind on pistol permits are now going to be required to deal with rifle licenses. Awesome. A de facto ban on semi autos. Fudds are finally going to be pissed off.

Edit: It looks like A-8102A/S-6363A, still haven't been signed

Edit 2: (I'm editing as I read through) It appears that A-8741/S-7736 only makes it illegal to SELL 80% lowers, not possess, correct? That's stupid. (it's also stupid to make possession illegal, just to be clear)

Edit 3: A-10503/S-9458 is only a permit to obtain a semiauto rifle, as it reads, but you don't have to KEEP that permit to possess them once bought? The logic is baffling and seriously hurts my head.

[usmcveteran]

The stupid, it hurts.

So the already overly taxed county clerks who are months behind on pistol permits are now going to be required to deal with rifle licenses. Awesome. A de facto ban on semi autos. Fudds are finally going to be pissed off.

Edit: It looks like A-8102A/S-6363A, still haven't been signed

Edit 2: (I'm editing as I read through) It appears that A-8741/S-7736 only makes it illegal to SELL 80% lowers, not possess, correct? That's stupid. (it's also stupid to make possession illegal, just to be clear)

Edit 3: A-10503/S-9458 is only a permit to obtain a semiauto rifle, as it reads, but you don't have to KEEP that permit to possess them once bought? The logic is baffling and seriously hurts my head.

Yes but if you don't renew the permit to buy and take possession on semi auto rifles you're fined $250 and that is taken into consideration for future license requests.

[Norm Deguerre x2]

Once you start playing the States game
They can sanction you

[camper4lyfe]

Yes but if you don't renew the permit to buy and take possession on semi auto rifles you're fined $250 and that is taken into consideration for future license requests.

So it's a money grab. What a crock of PePeshittata.

I wonder if you can "cancel" the permit, avoiding the poll tax.

[usmcveteran]

So it's a money grab. What a crock of PePePeshittatata.

I wonder if you can "cancel" the permit, avoiding the poll tax.

The fine only comes if you DON'T recertify.

My thought is that they want to force you to recertify so if you don't pass recertification it's reason to take away all your firearms.