Covid Color Zones bad idea?

[Norm DeGuerre]

I worked there extensively many years ago, nice campus

[camper4lyfe]

This is actually pretty impressive.

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I heard about this on the radio this morning. I couldn't help but laugh at the stupidity of it all, and the brilliance of the JCC.

[usmcveteran]

So I emailed Monroe county asking about priority in lab testing for coronavirus and about the color zones. They do prioritize lab testing based on different criteria. As for the color zones they just said it's a state thing ask them LOL. So I sent message to state asking for them to explain how it will help us and explain why it won't make things worse. Let's see if I get a response back lol

[usmcveteran]

I don't have covid! Stopping back at urgent care tonight to get note saying I don't have to quarantine anymore and to go back to work.

[WARFAB]

I don't have covid! Stopping back at urgent care tonight to get note saying I don't have to quarantine anymore and to go back to work.

Glad to hear it.

[usmcveteran]

Wonder if Cuomo heard about my email I sent asking for explanation how this color crap is supposed to help when it will clearly make things worse. Now instead of infection rates being determining factor it's based on hospitals LOL which he says is inarguable, guess he doesn't know me well lol.

https://www.whec.com/coronavirus/cuo...tions/5942567/

So again can someone explain to me how locking down businesses where hospitals are full helps do anything?

[dwa12479]

going to use the same barber as thug ..??

Na, his guy takes a little too much off the top...

[thughes]

Hmmmm.....

"You may be surprised to learn that of the trio of long-awaited coronavirus vaccines, the most promising, Moderna’s mRNA-1273, which reported a 94.5 percent efficacy rate on November 16, had been designed by January 13. This was just two days after the genetic sequence had been made public in an act of scientific and humanitarian generosity that resulted in China’s Yong-Zhen Zhang’s being temporarily forced out of his lab. In Massachusetts, the Moderna vaccine design took all of one weekend. It was completed before China had even acknowledged that the disease could be transmitted from human to human, more than a week before the first confirmed coronavirus case in the United States. By the time the first American death was announced a month later, the vaccine had already been manufactured and shipped to the National Institutes of Health for the beginning of its Phase I clinical trial."

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020...ne-design.html

[Norm DeGuerre]

Hmmmm.....

the vaccine had already been manufactured and shipped to the National Institutes of Health for the beginning of its Phase I clinical trial."[/I]

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020...ne-design.html

A bit suspicious perhaps

[WARFAB]

Hmmmm.....

[I]"You may be surprised to learn that of the trio of long-awaited coronavirus vaccines, the most promising, Moderna’s mRNA-1273, which reported a 94.5 percent efficacy rate on November 16, had been designed by January 13.

Based on what I've read about these mRNA vaccines, I don't really think there is anything suspicious about saying it had "been designed by January 13". What is the design to a vaccine? For an mRNA vaccine it's probably nothing more than some chemical compound descriptions written on paper.

mRNA vaccines are produced through (relatively) simple chemical synthesis in a lab. These types of vaccines don't require the long lead times and biological cultivation that more traditional vaccines require.

The parts that are more than a little shady are A: These types of vaccines have never been used for mass population inoculations before so little is known about long term effects, and B: the way they came up with the '94.5% effective' number is probably a bit misleading.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/20/h...effective.html

In the case of Pfizer, for example, the company recruited 43,661 volunteers and waited for 170 people to come down with symptoms of Covid-19 and then get a positive test. Out of these 170, 162 had received a placebo shot, and just eight had received the real vaccine.

From these numbers, Pfizer’s researchers calculated the fraction of volunteers in each group who got sick. Both fractions were small, but the fraction of unvaccinated volunteers who got sick was much bigger than the fraction of vaccinated ones. The scientists then determined the relative difference between those two fractions. Scientists express that difference with a value they call efficacy. If there’s no difference between the vaccine and placebo groups, the efficacy is zero. If none of the sick people had been vaccinated, the efficacy is 100 percent.

I guess that's a fairly standard way to analyze a vaccine's efficacy. But, anyone with some critical thinking skills can see that such a test performance will not mean true 95% effectiveness in a real world application.

[WARFAB]

When you get into how an mRNA vaccine actually works in your body, the pharmaceutical companies are working against decades of pop culture programming.

But don't worry. The pharmaceutical companies have made sure they're not legally liable for any problems caused by these Covid vaccines.

https://theintercept.com/2020/08/28/...cine-prep-act/