Coronavirus Outbreak

[WARFAB]

Rhode Island police to 'hunt down' New Yorkers seeking refuge.

https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/a...mpression=true

Rhode Island police began stopping cars with New York plates Friday. On Saturday, the National Guard will help them conduct house-to-house searches to find people who traveled from New York and demand 14 days of self-quarantine.

“Right now we have a pinpointed risk,” Governor Gina Raimondo said. “That risk is called New York City.”

[WARFAB]

Rioting in Newburgh.

https://www.recordonline.com/photoga...328009999/PH/1

[dwa12479]

Rioting in Newburgh.

https://www.recordonline.com/photoga...328009999/PH/1

Looks to be unrelated to Covid. Just a normal evening in Newburgh...lol.

[Norm DeGuerre]

Rhode Island police to 'hunt down' New Yorkers seeking refuge.

https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/a...mpression=true

Emergencies.

Trading With Enemy Act, 40 Stat. 411


48 Stat. 1, amendment to TWE


50 U.S.C. §1601, et seq. National Emergencies

50 U.S.C. §1701, et seq. International Emergency Economic Powers


50 U.S.C. §4301, et seq. Trading With Enemy

[Norm DeGuerre]

n legal analysis, definitions of terms make all the difference. And “martial law” can be defined in at least four ways:

· First, the term could denote the law that Congress may enact for governance of the Armed Forces and “the Militia of the several States”. This kind of “martial law” is plainly legitimate, because the Constitution delegates to Congress the powers “[t]o make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces” and “[t]o provide * * * for governing such Part of the[ Militia of the several States] as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States, respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress”. [U.S. Const. art. I, § 8, cls. 14 and 16.] With respect to “the land and naval Forces” such “martial law” applies at all times. With respect to the Militia, it applies only when the latter have been “call[ed] forth * * * to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions”. [U.S. Const. art. I, § 8, cl. 15.] With respect to everyone else, though, it applies not at all. This absolute separation the Fifth Amendment confirms: “No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger”. “Martial law” (in this first sense), which may (but need not necessarily) dispense with “Grand Jur[ies]”, applies only to “the land and naval forces” and to the Militia in time of “War” (“repel[ling] Invasions”) or “public danger” (“execut[ing] the Laws of the Union” and “suppress[ing] Insurrections”), and to no one else.

[Norm DeGuerre]

It would be clearer, though, not to describe these matters as involving “martial law, but instead to refer to them with particularity (as the Constitution does) as, say, “rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces” and “rules for governing part of the Militia under certain conditions”. Then their application only to individuals in the Armed Forces (at all times and everywhere) and in the Militia (when “call[ed] forth” for the three constitutional purposes)—and their inapplicability to anyone else at any time, anywhere, for any reason—would immediately and always be beyond cavil.

· Second, the term “martial law” may denote the direct control of civilians by military personnel operating in those territories where civilians are present, but no effective (or even any) civilian government exists. For example, during a war, in the front lines and rear echelons, as well as in places in the immediate vicinity where no actual fighting with the enemy may be going on, but the civilian authorities have been destroyed or driven out as a consequence of previous fighting. Or, after some huge natural disaster, mammoth industrial accident, or “terrorists’ strike”, across a wide area in which every important civilian administration has been rendered inoperative. The justification for “martial law” in these cases is that, if the enforcement of civilian law is well-nigh impossible, some other form of order must be set up for the benefit of the civilians themselves who cannot be evacuated. To be sure, in a zone of military operations, crimes such as espionage, sabotage, banditry, looting, and otherwise terrorizing civilians have to be detected, tried, and punished as quickly as possible. But in the case of many (and probably most) other crimes, civilian suspects could simply be arrested and be held for later trial in civilian courts, under civilian law. And military personnel could perform the essentially “police” functions of detection, apprehension, and detention in keeping with the procedures and safeguards of civilian law, too.

· Third, the term “martial law” may denote outright military control of some area in which military personnel simply suppress the local civilian authorities and dictate to civilians under the threat of main force. Whether or not the military personnel are following some specific “code of military law”, “martial law” in this sense purports to set aside the Constitution and all of the other “Laws of the Union” and to substitute therefore the orders of officers in the Armed Forces. And any civilian who violates these orders—even if he is acting pursuant to the Constitution and other “Laws of the Union”—may be punished, perhaps unto death itself. Although many Americans might acquiesce in “martial law” of this variety if it were the only available and unavoidable response to an actual natural disaster, economic crisis, or other political or social upheaval of severe magnitude, many other Americans fear that public officials bent on denial of rights on the pretext of some phony “emergency” that they themselves have created, will deploy the Armed Forces, along with various para-militarized State and local police and sheriffs’ departments, throughout the United States for the purpose, not of protecting, but of oppressing common Americans. Obviously, neither public officials nor officers of the Armed Forces can rationalize their imposition of “martial law” in some geographical area by themselves destroying, driving out, or otherwise suppressing the civilian authorities on the claim of an “emergency” that does not really exist. Once “martial law” has been imposed, however, a real “emergency” will exist—not least of all in the inability of civilian authorities and local residents to resist the oppressive forces occupying their territory. So “martial law” in this sense can amount to a self-fulfilling prophecy: Aspiring usurpers and tyrants in public office claim that an “emergency” exists. They declare “martial law” and deploy troops and para-militarized police forces. The imposition of “martial law” creates a real “emergency” of which average Americans have had no experience and for which they are totally unprepared. The resulting destruction of popular self-government rationalizes the maintenance of “martial law”.

[Pissed Off Patriot]

Rhode Island police to 'hunt down' New Yorkers seeking refuge.

https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/a...mpression=true

Which is why I left NY for Florida when I did. I had a few more days I could have spent around the house doing things, but I didn't want to risk not being able to get to Florida before April 1st when I start work down here. The risk was relatively low I'm sure, but it existed.

This virus crap is really affecting my ability to become an official Florida resident before April 1st. Can't get a drivers license since motor vehicle is shut down to the public, and that makes it harder to do everything else, from opening a bank account to getting Florida plates on the car. It can be done, but it adds a layer of difficulty.

[WARFAB]

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[Pissed Off Patriot]

"Gov. Ron DeSantis announced Saturday the creation of a new checkpoint on Interstate 95 at the Florida/Georgia border. The checkpoint will screen drivers traveling from the New York City area, a move meant to slow an influx of travelers coming from COVID-19 hot spots."

https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/...-city-drivers/

[usmcveteran]

Wow this is pretty messed up! https://www.foxnews.com/us/texas-sti...pany-paychecks

[usmcveteran]

This is scary, https://nypost.com/2020/03/28/trump-...t-coronavirus/ .

So we fight spreading the virus by staying away from others. Why do we need to get the military involved? Restrict movement?

[Norm DeGuerre]

This is scary, https://nypost.com/2020/03/28/trump-...t-coronavirus/ .

So we fight spreading the virus by staying away from others. Why do we need to get the military involved? Restrict movement?

I have no idea of what to make of all this ..
As I expressed, the STATE .Gov can not print Money, they need your tax dollars
this is going to be costly, as goods, services, and your PROPERTY TAXES WILL SKYROCKET after this
count on it

Military ..??
what ..?
gonna shoot corna molecules ..?

[Meketrefe]

This is scary, https://nypost.com/2020/03/28/trump-...t-coronavirus/ .

So we fight spreading the virus by staying away from others. Why do we need to get the military involved? Restrict movement?

Perhaps if people do not do what they are supposed to do they will see more people (thus military ) enforcing the rules like in other countries.
Many people still roaming around and ignoring the advice with no shame and showing a total disregard for others.
We don't know who is infected and who is not and we cannot use ignorance as a excuse to say "well I didn't know I was contagious". That is irresponsible and unethical.
it is like uncle Shotgun Biden "just shoot two blasts in the air" type of irresponsible attitude.

[WARFAB]

I have no idea of what to make of all this ..
As I expressed, the STATE .Gov can not print Money, they need your tax dollars
this is going to be costly, as goods, services, and your PROPERTY TAXES WILL SKYROCKET after this
count on it

There have been multiple areas (at least two I know of for sure) that cancelled their property reassessments recently due to the coronavirus and stock market meltdown. That doesn't necessarily mean taxes won't go up, but at least they're not claiming my house is worth the ridiculous amount Zillow claims it is.

[Norm DeGuerre]

Irondequoit taxes sukk !!

[Meketrefe]

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