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  • My thoughts on Home Clearing with a Pistols

    I am not going to discuss the reasons to or not to decide to clear your house other then to point out that you basically have 2 defenses to shooting someone in your home that I am aware of. You have Self Defense and Defense of Property.

    Here is the part about using deadly force to terminate burglary.
    http://public.leginfo.state.ny.us/LA...TA=$$PEN35.20$ $@TXPEN035.20+&LIST=LAW+&BROWSER=BROWSER+&TOKEN=18 869233+&TARGET=VIEW 3. A person in possession or control of, or licensed or privileged to be in, a dwelling or an occupied building, who reasonably believes that another person is committing or attempting to commit a burglary of such dwelling or building, may use deadly physical force upon such other person when he or she reasonably believes such to be necessary to prevent or terminate the commission or attempted commission of such burglary. Here is link to Article 35 in general:
    http://public.leginfo.state.ny.us/LA...3+&TARGET=VIEW


    Anyways back to topic at hand. These are my personal thoughts on home clearing and I will also be showing a video that I feel may help explain what I am talking about. This is really a complex topic so I am going to keep it pretty general so if you have something to add or questions to ask please do!



    I am going to start this out with a video that will explain a lot of the basics off the bat.


    ETA :Here is another great video

    After watching that video you should have a decent understanding of what "pieing a door or corner" is when I talk about.

    In the video you saw that he had a flashlight mounted onto his Pistol. When it comes to home clearing or night firing there is a lot of debate on best lighting methods. Lets face it you need some type of flashlight because you have to be able to accurately identify your target before shooting.

    You basically have two options. Either use a weapon mounted light or a hand held flashlight. Some feel that a handheld light is the better option since then you don't have to potentially point your firearm at a loved one to see its them with the light like you would with a weapon mounted light. Another benefit to a hand held light is that you can actually hold the pistol in one hand and the light in the other above and away from your head. Why is that a benefit? Well if your home intruder is also armed where are they most likely to fire? Exactly at your flashlight since that is all they will be able to see (assuming dark conditions).

    Now a benefit of a weapon mounted light is that it is always on the pistol. You don't have to worry about it not being there and the batteries should be better since your not likely to be using it for around the house type chores. You are also able to activate and deactivate the light while maintaining two hands on the firearm which should ensure more accurate rounds on target.


    Now in the video when he explained pieing, you can use that for both doors, hallways, and walls leading into open areas. Like he said its important not to be to close to the wall so that someone can not reach out and grab your firearm. Another tip is if you for whatever reason peak your head around the corner and see and intruder and pull back and decide to engage then you will be better off coming out from behind the wall or door or whatever low. They will be expecting you to come out at same height they saw you at before so by changing your height drastically you can get an advantage.


    Obviously if you think you might ever clear your home or other structure you should practice. I would suggest getting a gas blow back Pistol . Here are some in general on amazon HERE . Ideally you want to find one that mimics whatever you have. The reason why I suggest getting one of those is so that you can actually practice clearing your home and even set up targets. When no one is home you can set up targets around your house or even have a friend or family member place them so you can practice not only search them out but also engaging them. Just make sure you don't shoot anything on accident that could break.

    Another option to make your life easier is to get IP cameras like the ones HERE. By having IP camera set up looking down hallways or in open areas you can look and see if anyone is there in safety. It can also give you a huge tactical advantage if you need to get to a loved one or to aid police when they get there.

    Again this is not a real specific description only because you could write a book on this subject but its a nice little primer and hopefully can get some discussion going.
    Last edited by usmcveteran; 12-10-2014, 07:54 PM.
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    Great write up! Good start to the "how" conversation.

    I love the camera idea. Maybe I should repurpose the one in the bedroom.
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    • #3
      Good stuff! My personal opinion is that I will readily take a life to save my own or that of a loved one but I do not own anything that is worth more than another human being's life (even a low life scumbag sub-human). Just my .02......
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      • #4
        Originally posted by thughes View Post
        Good stuff! My personal opinion is that I will readily take a life to save my own or that of a loved one but I do not own anything that is worth more than another human being's life (even a low life scumbag sub-human). Just my .02......
        So ur not gonna repurpose your bedroom camera?
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        • #5
          Originally posted by 24Pink14Stink View Post

          So ur not gonna repurpose your bedroom camera?
          If I did I wouldn't be able to send you any more of those special videos I like to make for you.
          Beer is like porn, you can buy it but it's more fun to make your own

          I have to bend over too far

          I get a boner.

          bareback every couple of days, GTG. Bareback, brokeback, same $hit!

          I joined a support group to help me deal with my social anxiety but I just can't seem to work up the nerve to go to a meeting......

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          • #6
            Originally posted by thughes View Post
            Good stuff! My personal opinion is that I will readily take a life to save my own or that of a loved one but I do not own anything that is worth more than another human being's life (even a low life scumbag sub-human). Just my .02......
            Point is that you need to know your justifications, for example if you shoot someone in the back you would be SOL for a self defense justification but not for terminating a burglary because you verbally told him to stop but he refused and you had no other choice.

            Just things to think about and hope never happens.

            Also here is another thread I did on home defense that ties in well with this one.
            http://www.nyshenaniguns.com/forum/s...4-home-defense
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            • #7
              Some more interesting videos of people trying to break into homes.

              Also note camera placement and view that it gives.



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              • #8
                There's a lot of considerations to factor in when clearing a room, or clearing a building. First, what's in the room that you're clearing, your kid, or perhaps a safe? Are you clearing your residence or an office building? What kind of weapon do you have, a handgun, or perhaps a tacticool shotgun? Is time of the essence? Do you have back-up? Do you have enough time to put on some sort of ballistic protection?

                I'm a firm believer in using technology as a force multiplier. Since as civilians we can't have flash bang grenades, we can at least have something to provide a distraction as we enter the questionable area: http://www.amazon.com/Brite-Strike-R...tactical+balls I believe that if I had time available I'd use a small drone to provide me with a view of the room, without having to need to expose myself to potential harm.There are flying drones and small remote controlled vehicles which can send you real time images, while you're safe location. Unlike fixed cameras, remote controlled vehicles/drones can move and follow intruders.

                A dog could also be sent into a questionable area, and dogs can provide you both an indication as to where an intruder is hiding, and the dog can be a distraction, providing you a chance to make your move.

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