Rifle 101 Question

[camper4lyfe]

Ok, really dumb and basic question:

I have a Rem 700 ADL in .22-250. As an engineer I can't leave well enough alone and have thrown around the idea of throwing a new stock on it to do the ADL to BDL conversion.

That said, how do I know if it's long action or short, and what's the difference?

[GUNSICK]

Here is the list of caliber and action sizes. Yours is a short action. The diffrence is the length of the ejection port to accommodate the length of the casing being ejected. A bigger action also makes for a heavier rifle.

https://support.remington.com/Genera...hort_action%3F

[SPIKER]

I changed out my Rem 700 to a detachable mag system as well as changing the stock. The spring loaded hinged bottom metal is the worst.

http://www.stockysstocks.com/servlet/StoreFront.

I went with this stock.

http://www.stockysstocks.com/servlet...ton-700/Detail

And this system...due to not having to modify the stock to accept it.

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Kwik-...Kit/741478.uts

Don't buy it from Cabelas though as they have an older version. Call the guy direct. Small company. Guy named Don.

http://www.trexlerindustries.com/kwikklip.htm

Don't know if you saw my thread but here's what it looks like now.

[camper4lyfe]

I just hate the unload one at a time crap. It's bloody annoying.

[Meketrefe]

The length of the action determines the length of bolt throw you have and therefore the capability to take longer casings like supermagnums. 30.06 is also a long action. 308, 22.250, 260, 243w or any of the 223 or 308w derivates or similar or shorter in max lenght are short actions.
the best stocks are the ones professionals use like mcmillan, manners, even the accuracy international retrofit but they are expensive.
the best value for the money is the bells and carlson medallist that is full aluminum beded and easy to fit and for $200 or so will give a solid chasis to put that action in the upper leagues w.o breaking the bank. There are many great options but nothing that gives the value vs cost of the medalist and wo goin double or triple that cost. Consistency is the key. Nothing to be invented here.
do your homework.

[SPIKER]

Yeah, not a bad price for the B&C Medalist.

http://www.stockysstocks.com/servlet...g-block/Detail

[dsdmmat]

I put the Bell and Carlson Varmit 2 on my 700s I like the fill aluminum pillar from stock to forend. They are not to terribly priced either. I was looking at the 5 but I didn't think I would be adjusting the cheek rest or length of pull that much for the extra 200 bucks.

[Meketrefe]

Sometimes they have them on sale for $210-$220 so I buy two or three at the time. Great value for any budget projects...

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/486...ProductFinding

This is the one I used for my son in the last two builds. a tad heavier that is a good thing for a precission rifle or carbine.
I was able to put competitive rifles including mount and decent entry level glass for below $2500 / each.
for the bottom I use the AI bottom mental. One can start with the CDI or even a PTG budget. They do work.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/618...ProductFinding

If one is considering a badger unit with mcmillan then I believe it is worth just buying the accuracy international 1.5 chassis
that can be found on sale for $850
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/289...ProductFinding

Otherwise stick to the B&C and adjust your comb with hokey tape and you are done. In the end if one is on a tight budget I think it is better to save the money to have the rifle blueprinet and with a high end barrel and good steel mounts and optics.

Once one starts to invest in accuracy one needs to dance the accuracy tango but there is no need to go full monty with $7000 rigs.

It all depends on one's expectations for accuracy and consistency and with that I mean assured repeatability.

[camper4lyfe]

Honestly, I'm just looking to change for convenience sake. I use it for woodchucks so I don't necessarily need a tack driver.

[SPIKER]

I was looking at the B&C stocks, but decided against a heavier stock so that I could take it deer hunting. I'm not a gold medalist shooter to begin with so the gun still shoots better than me.

[Meketrefe]

The medalist with the smaller size still offers the very desirable straight comb and full alluminum bedding. It is lighter than many wood ones but a tad heavier than the cheap plastic factory ones. Imo pretry manageable and always good increasing the efficiency and value of the rifle.

[camper4lyfe]

I changed out my Rem 700 to a detachable mag system as well as changing the stock. The spring loaded hinged bottom metal is the worst.

http://www.stockysstocks.com/servlet/StoreFront.

I went with this stock.

http://www.stockysstocks.com/servlet...ton-700/Detail

And this system...due to not having to modify the stock to accept it.

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Kwik-...Kit/741478.uts

Don't buy it from Cabelas though as they have an older version. Call the guy direct. Small company. Guy named Don.

http://www.trexlerindustries.com/kwikklip.htm

I'm just starting to look through links now that I'm at a computer (that's what work is for, right?)

It looks like the kwik klip (ugh, he calls the magazines a clip) won't work for me because it's not offered in .22-250. Maybe it would warrant a call/email to the guy.

Looking at the price of things, it looks like this project will be a ways out, as I'm looking at roughly $500 between new stock and something like the kwik klip.

Meke: I'm going to have some questions for you at some point. I figure since I'm doing a new stock, I might as well get it set up right and get what accuracy I can out of it, ie bedding and all that fun stuff.

[SPIKER]

Yeah, the Kwik Klip is definitely the cheapest out there. I would give Don a call and see what he can come up with. At least they try to keep it cool and spell clip with a "k".

[Meketrefe]

I'm just starting to look through links now that I'm at a computer (that's what work is for, right?)

It looks like the kwik klip (ugh, he calls the magazines a clip) won't work for me because it's not offered in .22-250. Maybe it would warrant a call/email to the guy.

Looking at the price of things, it looks like this project will be a ways out, as I'm looking at roughly $500 between new stock and something like the kwik klip.

Meke: I'm going to have some questions for you at some point. I figure since I'm doing a new stock, I might as well get it set up right and get what accuracy I can out of it, ie bedding and all that fun stuff.

With the full aluminum bed like B&C do not need bedding. The action will "hammer/imprint" itself into the bed with proper torque settings. A light sanding and cleaning is all is needed.
you will need bedding for a scope mount and this should be made of steel. Another directive once you decide to dance the accuracy tango.

[SPIKER]

Scope mount bedding? Can you explain that further?