cocked and locked

[thughes]

Being a reluctant Glock guy (remember the ugly little G26 that won my heart?), I have just recently considered carrying a real metal gun again. I have a few full sized Sigs but they're just too damn big for me to want to carry them. As you may know, I just recently picked up a used (but well cared for) Sig 1911 commander. I have a Ruger SR1911 commander but it can be picky about after market magazines to the extent that I don't trust it as well as I should. I bought a bunch of Wilson Combat mags but haven't had a chance to try them in the Ruger yet. All that being said, I shot the Sig 1911 for the first time last night and I think I'm in love. I have no problem carrying cocked-and-locked but the thought of that got me to wondering:

Why is it that the guys that say carrying cocked-and-locked makes them nervous are the same guys that say they won't carry a 1911 because they are afraid they will forget to sweep off the safety when they are under pressure resulting in the gun not going bang when they really need it?

[usmcveteran]

I think it all comes down to conditioning...... Carrying concealed at first in general can make some timid. What if people see it or what if it goes off somehow?

I think some people don't want to go through those emotions again of doing something new and that's fine because that's their choice. I carry a Sig P-238 which is like a 1911.

What it always comes down to is training. Train the way you will fight and you will be ok. Don't practice only with glocks for example if your going to carry your Sig. Do something enough and it's muscle memory.

By the way..... you going to let me try it out?

[thughes]

By the way..... you going to let me try it out?

Maybe.

The point of my post is that I find it silly that guys think the 1911 won't go bang when they pull the trigger because they forgot to disengage the safety yet are afraid it will somehow go bang all by itself simply sitting in it's holster.

[Meketrefe]

all metal why? things have evolved from the middle age. LOL

Anyway for those who like Glocks and Metal....


All metal glock Race frame. I have no experience but those who own the race
frame they love it.

[usmcveteran]

Like I said it all comes down to training.

Now with 1911's the first round will go off but I do think they can be a bit more finicky then other pistols so you can have more issues with ammunition choice or magazine choice but again that's a broad generic statement.

[Cgrutt]

TBH I don't think i'd be comfortable carrying a 1911 for self defense even though I have zero problems with my SIG 938 (as USMC mentioned similar to 1911) or any Glock. I don't trust the combination of backstrap safety and thumb safety in self defense scenario. Not because of fear of ND but quite the opposite fear of it not going bang under duress or even duress combined with a struggle or injury. I know 1911s are tried, tested and true but for me there are better alternatives at my disposal.

[4excalibursquared]

I personally just feel any 1911 is just to big to be an everyday carry gun. My opinion yes, but I'm basing my opinion on true logistics. I have a 1911 and would never want that 10inches and 2lbs on me all day, I guess peeps do it, but I'm more accustomed (and happy) with less than 7inches an 20 ounces for comfort and concealment. But whatever you choose, good luck and happy blasteries

[24Pink14Stink]

I personally just feel any 1911 is just to big to be an everyday carry gun. My opinion yes, but I'm basing my opinion on true logistics. I have a 1911 and would never want that 10inches and 2lbs on me all day, I guess peeps do it, but I'm more accustomed (and happy) with less than 7inches an 20 ounces for comfort and concealment. But whatever you choose, good luck and happy blasteries

I carry 9 inches around all day. Trust me, you get used to it

[4excalibursquared]

I carry 9 inches around all day. Trust me, you get used to it

Yea yea, I was guessing it was gonna be ChickenS though

[thughes]

AC beat me to it. Keep teeing them up for us 4x.....

[harleyhutch]

I fully understand ones reservations but as others have said. train as you fight and be fully familiar with your carry piece. If you reload, you have an advantage in the ammo department as long as you don't change a thing, if running factory ammo, find what works and by it by the case. I like 1911's but then again I joined the Army at 17 and was shooting them @18 and didn't care for the Beretta when they were introduced, but then again I wanted a M14 instead of a M16. For a carry gun, I carry a Mustang Plus II, a Browning High Power and going to try and get my old Glock 30 back from my brother as he doesn't shoot or carry it. My High Power isn't small be any means, but I shoot it well and have no reservations carrying it cocked and locked. A holster with a strap between the hammer and the frame gives you all the confidence in the world.

[dwa12479]

So..... I've seen you shoot probably all of your handguns. You shoot them all very well, and always on target. I've also been first hand witness to the malfunctions of the Brownells mags in the SR1911 last week and a small mishap last night with fully seating the new Wilson Combat mags in the new Sig. I have yet to see a malfunction of any sort (gun or shooter to blame) with the G26. 9mm vs .45 debate aside, carry what works for you. You settled on the G26 a while ago and carried it since for a reason. You carry it well, shoot it great, it's got a full 10 rd () capacity. Who cares what is the primary element in the frame construction?

[mondo]

I fully understand ones reservations but as others have said. train as you fight and be fully familiar with your carry piece. If you reload, you have an advantage in the ammo department as long as you don't change a thing, if running factory ammo, find what works and by it by the case. I like 1911's but then again I joined the Army at 17 and was shooting them @18 and didn't care for the Beretta when they were introduced, but then again I wanted a M14 instead of a M16. For a carry gun, I carry a Mustang Plus II, a Browning High Power and going to try and get my old Glock 30 back from my brother as he doesn't shoot or carry it. My High Power isn't small be any means, but I shoot it well and have no reservations carrying it cocked and locked. A holster with a strap between the hammer and the frame gives you all the confidence in the world.

You are absolutely right.Train as you fight.Anyone who carries should at least attend classes on how to tactically use a handgun.Shooting is good practice,but not enough by itself.Drawing the hand gun from the holster that has been selected for your concealed carry must be practiced along with mag changes, and every type of stoppage that can happen.This can be achieved with snap caps and dry firing, as well as live fire drills.Skills are perishable and must be practiced frequently to maintain proficiency.Whatever pistol that you decide to carry,be it a 1911,Glock,revolver,etc.,practice is key.I have carried most hand gun designs off and on over the years, but I am partial to the Glock ,as it was an issue weapon and the thousands of rounds of ammo fired through it were supplied along with it.It has been said that a thousand repetitions of a particular skill are needed for a skill to become muscle memory.If your choice is a 1911,and you practice drawing the weapon and disengaging the safety over and over until it becomes second nature,,there should be no problem carrying it for self defense.In the end,you must have complete confidence in your skills and weapon system.

[usmcveteran]

Great post mondo! I last qualified as expert with pistol before getting out of military. A couple years later I got my pistol permit and I could not hit anything consistently at 3 yards!

I really searched online for ways to shoot better and re taught myself how to shoot accurately.

This topic has me thinking about creating a new one on how to train at home for ccw so you can be proficient if the need arises.

[mondo]

That is a great mind set to have! Your military training is an excellent foundation to build on.