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    Changing out barrels?

    At some point in time I need to change out my 5.56/223 barrel as it has a pinned and welded muzzle brake on it and I want a barrel that does not have the muzzle brake,so I would like to know is it necessary to check out the head space on it or can I just swap out the barrels?

    Of course this would only happen if I can come up or save the extra money to do so..

    The next question what is a fairly good 5.56/223 barrel that will not cost me a lot to buy, I would only be using it at the range to shoot at 100 to maybe 150 yards..

    If you would please post me some links to a barrel that would shoot both 5.56 and 223 ammo..

    Thank You
    Clarence
    I could probably could get away with a 52 inch shaft but if I could get a 54 inch shaft that would be great as I could always adjust the length of the shaft
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    I am going to look into this more but off the top of my head you will not really have to check headspace. You will want to get a barrel rated for 5.56 since that is capable of shooting both but if you get a .223 barrel its not rated for 5.56.

    I am basing this on building my own AR without issue. In a few I'll post a couple barells that will work before I head off to bed.
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    • #3
      Thanks USMC,by the way have you heard back from tech support on the pop up notification when you get a pm?..

      Clarence
      I could probably could get away with a 52 inch shaft but if I could get a 54 inch shaft that would be great as I could always adjust the length of the shaft

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      • #4
        Here are a couple that would work http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts...TO%20299xzzx99
        www.AvidArms.com I'm STIHL out of conditioner!!
        Finally joined the ranks of broke homeowner
        Am I short stroking or going to fast?

        I know he has a bush

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        • #5
          Why do not use the barrel you have? remove the brake or simply cut it behind the porting and it will stay as a muzzle cup/protector.
          Also any barrel that you buy is good to have headspace checked, measure the tenon and do a good visual inspection after a good cleaning all before mounting.
          This is simple and it takes only a couple of minutes. If you do not have a headspace I can send you one but I can also tell you how to do a field check
          w/o much trouble. All you need is a dummy/innert round and scotch tape. But since you will do this w/o the rifle or bolt assembled you could check with a live
          round too. For the tenon all you have to measure is the depth from the breech. Very easy with regular calipers. I can explain.
          Manufacturing miskates are rare but they do happen. So this way you make sure that type of lottery doesn't go to you.
          But consider reusing the one that you have.
          Last edited by Meketrefe; 11-13-2014, 01:38 AM.
          It is a shame when people demanding tolerance, have no tolerance

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          • #6
            Just a thought, but why not remove the brake and install a thread protector, and then pin and weld that on. WAY cheaper than a new barrel, and still the same outcome.
            Old enough to know better, still too young to care

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            • #7
              Originally posted by DarthVader View Post
              Thanks USMC,by the way have you heard back from tech support on the pop up notification when you get a pm?..

              Clarence
              Yea they claim that feature isn't in this version of software even though they have the option for it. Just glad email function is working now.
              www.AvidArms.com I'm STIHL out of conditioner!!
              Finally joined the ranks of broke homeowner
              Am I short stroking or going to fast?

              I know he has a bush

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              • #8
                @USMC thanks for the reply back..Yes as of right I am still getting emails since you got that part fixed, I am just not getting the pop ups when I get a pm on the forum..

                @camper4lyfe,I not sure it is possible as the muzzle brake I have now has been pinned and welded on the barrel now..

                @Meketrefe,I am not sure if I can find anyone close to me that can do that, as when I had it done before I had to travel 155 miles one way to have the muzzle brake welded and pinned the last time..I will have to check around to see if there is anyone closer that can do what you are saying..

                Clarence
                I could probably could get away with a 52 inch shaft but if I could get a 54 inch shaft that would be great as I could always adjust the length of the shaft

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                • #9
                  I just cut one the other day behind the port. What type of brake is that? can I see it? The main thing is to leave some space and avoid damaging anything including the crown.
                  After cut the remaining section of the brake w/o the porting is as permanent as it was before. So 100% ny safe bs compliance.
                  It is a shame when people demanding tolerance, have no tolerance

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Meketrefe View Post
                    I just cut one the other day behind the port. What type of brake is that? can I see it? The main thing is to leave some space and avoid damaging anything including the crown.
                    After cut the remaining section of the brake w/o the porting is as permanent as it was before. So 100% ny safe bs compliance.
                    Here is 2 pictures of what the muzzle brake looks like on my gun.



                    I could probably could get away with a 52 inch shaft but if I could get a 54 inch shaft that would be great as I could always adjust the length of the shaft

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                    • #11
                      I would just cut it by the last port. It should be 1/8 or more from the crown. Make sure of this. Then you can smooth the area with a fine file, spray some paint and done. All you have to do a bit straight and remove the burrs. Since it doesn't impact the crown there is no risk. I would protect the crown with a paper or tinfoil plug that you can remove after done. The remaining piece will work as a thread protector but even better because it will protect the crown as it is a bit
                      recessed inside of what is left of the old brake. With a lathe is really 2 minutes but you can do with a saw specially one with a fixture.
                      Even a table saw could be used in a pinch with the proper blade and with care not to burn anything. Sparks will come up in the air. I would not use a expensive saw for this. All is needed is to be straight. Nobody will know unless they come with a magnifying glass to inspect what is left of your brake.
                      Worse case you can always have someone to turn it later on a lathe for a smoother finish if you want. A dark bluing or mustard trick might darken the face
                      depending on the alloy composition. It is not like you need a specific patina. this is easy.
                      Last edited by Meketrefe; 11-13-2014, 09:56 PM.
                      It is a shame when people demanding tolerance, have no tolerance
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                      • #12
                        Well I have check out a couple places around me as I do not want to attempt on cutting of the muzzle brake off myself and there is no one close enough to me that will do remove the muzzle brake,My self I just do not want to screw it up and ruining something I am not confident in doing my self..

                        The only way as right now would be to ether get a new barrel or replace it with a whole complete upper and barrel,man I just not sure what to do right now except to replace it with ether a new barrel or buy another complete upper with a non threaded barrel,guess some how I just have to some how save the money for one or see if there is a place where I can make monthly time payments on a complete upper,does anyone know of any place that does time payments on a complete upper?

                        Clarence
                        I could probably could get away with a 52 inch shaft but if I could get a 54 inch shaft that would be great as I could always adjust the length of the shaft

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                        • #13
                          Clarence,
                          you cannot screw up anything because you are just cutting something you were going to remove. If you do not like the way it looks you can always remove it later.
                          I would love to help you but I am not close from you nor I have a gunsmith license. But cutting by the last port is simple as soon as you stay away from the crown.
                          It is much easier than sawing off a double barrel shotgun. Slowly and steady a piece of cake with a good saw or other tool. Even a powered hand saw you can make a square with two clamps to stay straight. This is easy.

                          If you want a new barrel ebay has a thing called payme later. I have never used any of this but maybe this would work.

                          http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wilson-Arms-...item2c8f110f55
                          Last edited by Meketrefe; 11-15-2014, 10:13 PM.
                          It is a shame when people demanding tolerance, have no tolerance
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                          • #14
                            Thank You,yes I wished there where a lot members who live closer or I lived closer to them,I am going to really think hard on this before I do anything to it..

                            Thanks for your help..
                            Clarence
                            I could probably could get away with a 52 inch shaft but if I could get a 54 inch shaft that would be great as I could always adjust the length of the shaft

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                            • #15
                              And if you're really not comfortable doing it. Replacing the barrel itself is really easy!
                              Some guy living in NewYorkistan

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