Handguards and NY unSAFE Act.

[Meketrefe]

Is there anything in the UNSAFE act that limits the size of a handguard.

If a handguard was so long that it would completely cover the barrel is there anything regarding compliance? I don't think so but just to see what you guys and gals think.
Lets say the barrel has the proper lenght of 16" or longer and it has a target crown just to make sure all that is not open for arbitrary interpretation.

So like in this upper, lets say the supressor is not a supressor and simply an extension of the hand guard with vents (shrouded).
And under all this is just a simple 16" barrel with target crown.

So here is a draft of the proposed extension....




So here is how this could look...


Cosmetically it will be hard to say the difference between an extension and a supressor (aside from the noice of course) but safe
act is only about cosmetic nonsense anyway.

[GUNSICK]

Don't see an issue until some lib calls it a barrel shroud.

[dwa12479]

Hmmm. It has a scary look to it. Probably illegal for sure.

[Meketrefe]

Don't see an issue until some lib calls it a barrel shroud.

Well they can call it anything they want. That is their specialty, inventing names for firearms and parts.

[WARFAB]

Looks like fun to me. Rig one up for the .357 Gunner?

[Meketrefe]

In any case no shroud mention under the rifle section of the law...

(A) A SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLE THAT HAS AN ABILITY TO ACCEPT A DETACHABLE 44 MAGAZINE AND HAS AT LEAST ONE OF THE FOLLOWING CHARACTERISTICS: 45 (I) A FOLDING OR TELESCOPING STOCK; 46 (II) A PISTOL GRIP THAT PROTRUDES CONSPICUOUSLY BENEATH THE ACTION OF 47 THE WEAPON; 48 (III) A THUMBHOLE STOCK; 49 (IV) A SECOND HANDGRIP OR A PROTRUDING GRIP THAT CAN BE HELD BY THE 50 NON-TRIGGER HAND; 51 (V) A BAYONET MOUNT; 52 (VI) A FLASH SUPPRESSOR, MUZZLE BREAK, MUZZLE COMPENSATOR, OR THREADED 53 BARREL DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE A FLASH SUPPRESSOR, MUZZLE BREAK, OR 54 MUZZLE COMPENSATOR; 55 (VII) A GRENADE LAUNCHER; OR
1/15/13 open.nysenate.gov/legislation/api/1.0/lrs-print/bill/S2230-2013
open.nysenate.gov/legislation/api/1.0/lrs-print/bill/S2230-2013 19/39
S. 2230 19 A. 2388 1 (B) A SEMIAUTOMATIC SHOTGUN THAT HAS AT LEAST ONE OF THE FOLLOWING

[Chicken Shoot]

Would the handguard hold up to the forward force of the gases? I know you said it would be vented, but how strong is a handguard to begin with? I'm only asking because ... my right to own a gun I had on order was taken from me in 2013 and I don't have enough knowledge of them to give this a yes or no answer. I can say without a doubt that there is nothing I can find in the BS UNSAFE Act that this would be considered a feature.

[ProgSpear]

It's simply a "crown protector". Libs aren't the only ones that can use creative language. Also, I suggest painting a smiley face on the end to totally eliminate the scary factor.

[WARFAB]

Done. Even Skretny would't be able to call it a scary rifle now.
HappyRifle.jpg

[ProgSpear]

^^^^ Perfect!

[RandallOfLegend]

Won't your fingers get blasted with some of the gas getting redirected back into the handguard?

[big flash]

in the rochester specific code there is this provision that could render this application an "assault weapon" (S47-5):
A barrel jacket surrounding all or a portion of the barrel to dissipate heat therefrom

[big flash]

Won't your fingers get blasted with some of the gas getting redirected back into the handguard?

bonus feature for cold days!

[thughes]

Roc also has a 5 round mag limit, how many city residents are abiding by that? FURoc!

[WARFAB]

Won't your fingers get blasted with some of the gas getting redirected back into the handguard?

I haven't read all the fine print, but I can see how a design that includes some o-rings could seal things up nicely.

The goal is to avoid threads on the barrel right? I'm thinking an attachment that is fixed to the hand guard but goes over the end of the barrel for alignment purposes. Some o-rings could be included in the section that goes over the end of the barrel.