New Laws

[gtnorry]

From NYSP
https://troopers.ny.gov/system/files...22-final-1.pdf

From DEC
https://www.dec.ny.gov/docs/wildlife_pdf/gunfaq2022.pdf

[Norm DeGuerre]

I can not download on my phone, out of memory
What's the trooper drift ??
They do not make Law ...

[thughes]

It's a Q&A

[thughes]

My favorite, not sure if this is comedy gold or just sad irony.....

Q23) What are the places, under the new law, where I cannot bring a firearm, rifle,
or shotgun?

A: Gatherings of people to collectively express their constitutional rights to
assemble or protest

[Norm DeGuerre]

Classic .Gov at work. ????

[thughes]

Q20) Do I need a Semi-Automatic Rifle License to keep a semi-automatic rifle I
currently own?

A) Any person that lawfully possesses a semi-automatic rifle prior to September 4, 2022,will not be required to obtain the Semi-Automatic Rifle License. The Semi-Automatic Rifle License is only required for persons acquiring a semi-automatic rifle on or after September 4, 2022.


Legit question: How in the bloody hell are they going to be able to determine whether the semi-auto rifle in my possession was purchased before or after Sept. 1, 2022?

[Norm DeGuerre]

Aimed at Dealers and SafeCrap transfers

[usmcveteran]

In future guns made after that date will prove you took possession after that date. Other then that there is no way to know.

[thughes]

Didn't Bruen validate the right to carry outside your home?

Q2) What are the most common types of licenses for a pistol or revolver in New
York State?
A) The two most common licenses for a pistol or revolver are a license to “have and
possess” and a license to “have and carry concealed.”

A “have and possess” license is commonly referred to as a “premises license,” which
authorizes thelicense holderto possess a firearm at a certain location such as their
homeor place of business

A “have and carry concealed” license is commonly referred toas a “concealed carry
license,” which authorizes thelicense holderto carry a pistolorrevolver on their person.


If you have a carry license, you now have to "recert" every 3 years, not 5. If you have a residence only license, recert is still every 5 years:

Q8) What is the difference between renewal and recertification of my pistol or
revolver license?
A) A pistol or revolver license issued by New York City or Westchester, Nassau, and
Suffolk counties expires and needs to be renewed every 3 years.

A pistol or revolver license issued outside of those areas does not expire,but the
license holder must recertify with the New York State Police every 3 years for a
concealed carry license and every 5 years for othertypes oflicenses.

Q9) How does the new law impactthe recertification due date of mypistolor
revolver license?
A) If you have a New York State concealed carry license, you are now required to
submit your recertification to the New York State Police every 3 years after issuance
instead of 5 years.

The new law does not change the recertification requirements for apremises license,
whichmust be recertified every 5 years.

[Norm DeGuerre]

New York don't care

[gtnorry]

Issued August 27, 2022
FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS REGARDING RECENT CHANGES TO NEW YORK STATE FIREARM LAWS
These Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) provide information on New York State’s newly enacted firearms law. These questions and answers are not intended to be exhaustive, nor do they constitute legal advice.
Please review the information that follows to learn more about how to obtain a firearm license, including new requirements for an in-person interview, firearm safety training, and additional resources for hunters, gun owners, and retailers.
Additional information can be found at:
New York State Police’s Firearm Website &
New York State Department of Environmental Conservation’s Website Q1) Do I need a license to possess a pistol or revolver in New York State?
A) Yes. You are still required to have a license to possess a pistol or revolver.* Nothing in the recent United States Supreme Court decision changes this fact.
*Note: Requirements for a semi-automatic rifle are addressed in Questions 19-21.
Q2) What are the most common types of licenses for a pistol or revolver in New York State?
A) The two most common licenses for a pistol or revolver are a license to “have and possess” and a license to “have and carry concealed.”
A “have and possess” license is commonly referred to as a “premises license,” which authorizes the license holder to possess a firearm at a certain location such as their home or place of business
A “have and carry concealed” license is commonly referred to as a “concealed carry license,” which authorizes the license holder to carry a pistol or revolver on their person.
Q3) Are the terms “license” or “permit” the same?
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A) Yes. The terms license and permit are used interchangeably.
Q4) What are the new requirements to obtain a concealed carry license?
A) The new requirements to obtain a concealed carry license are:
• proof of completion of a firearms safety training course (see Questions 11-18);
• four character references;
• a list of former and current social media accounts for the last three years;
• disclosure of applicant’s spouse or domestic partner, any other adults residing in
the applicant’s home, including any adult children of the applicant, and
• an in-person interview of the applicant with the licensing officer/designee.
For more information, please visit the State Police’s Firearm webpage or contact your county/local licensing officer.
Q5) Am I required to show a need for self-defense to get a pistol or revolver license?
A) No. You are not required to show a need for self-defense to get a pistol or revolver license.
Q6) Are retired law enforcement officers required to apply for a concealed carry license?
A) Yes. Retired law enforcement officials will need to apply for a concealed carry license.
Q7) How and when do I apply for a firearm license?
A) You can apply for a firearm license to your county/local licensing officer at any time. Please visit State Police’s Firearm webpage for more information on how to apply for a pistol or revolver license.
Recertification/Renewal
Q8) What is the difference between renewal and recertification of my pistol or revolver license?
A) A pistol or revolver license issued by New York City or Westchester, Nassau, and Suffolk counties expires and needs to be renewed every 3 years.
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A pistol or revolver license issued outside of those areas does not expire, but the license holder must recertify with the New York State Police every 3 years for a concealed carry license and every 5 years for other types of licenses.
Q9) How does the new law impact the recertification due date of my pistol or revolver license?
A) If you have a New York State concealed carry license, you are now required to submit your recertification to the New York State Police every 3 years after issuance instead of 5 years.
The new law does not change the recertification requirements for a premises license, which must be recertified every 5 years.
Q10) How does the new law impact the renewal of my pistol or revolver license?
A) A concealed carry pistol or revolver license issued by New York City, Westchester, Nassau, and Suffolk counties now expires every 3 years.
Training
Q11) Who is required to take the new firearm safety training course?
A) Any individual who seeks to obtain a concealed carry license for a pistol or revolver will be required to take the 16-hour classroom and 2-hour live-fire firearm safety training course. This will be required for concealed carry licenses issued on or after September 1, 2022.
Individuals renewing their license in New York City or Westchester, Nassau, and Suffolk counties must complete the training.
Q12) Where will I take the required firearm safety training course? How much will it cost?
A) The firearm safety training course will be provided by authorized instructors, in accordance with standards published by the New York State Police and the New York State Division of Criminal Justice Services (DCJS). Training costs and locations will be set by the instructor.
Q13) When will I need to take the firearm safety training course?
A) Proof of completion of the firearm safety training course is required to obtain a concealed carry license on or after September 1, 2022.
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Local licensing officers have the discretion to determine whether a portion or all of the firearms training requirement is satisfied for those applicants who completed a firearm safety course in the previous 5 years.
Q14) Do I need to take the firearm safety training course if I already have a concealed carry license that was issued outside of New York City or Westchester, Nassau, or Suffolk counties?
A) No. Existing concealed carry pistol or revolver license holders with licenses that were issued outside of New York City or Westchester, Nassau, or Suffolk counties are not required to take the firearm safety training course.
Q15) If I am renewing my concealed carry license in a jurisdiction where it has an expiration date, (i.e., New York City, and Westchester, Nassau, and Suffolk counties) will I need to take the firearm safety training course before renewing?
A) Yes. An individual seeking to renew a concealed carry license on or after September 1, 2022, will need to complete the firearm safety training course.
Local licensing officers have the discretion to determine whether a portion or all of the firearms training requirement is satisfied for those applicants who completed a firearm safety course in the previous 5 years.
Q16) If I have an existing concealed carry license that was issued outside of New York City or Westchester, Nassau, or Suffolk counties and I am recertifying it with the New York State Police, will I need to take the firearm safety training course before recertifying?
A) No. The firearm safety training course is not required to recertify your concealed carry license with the State Police.
Q17) Are active or retired law enforcement or former military personnel exempt from having to take the firearm safety training course?
A) The firearm safety training requirements apply to all applicants for a concealed carry license. This includes retired law enforcement and former military personnel.
Local licensing officers have the discretion to determine whether a portion or all of the firearms training requirement is satisfied for those applicants who completed a firearm safety course in the previous 5 years.
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Further, local licensing officers may satisfy the training requirement for active or retired military personnel or law enforcement officers who received firearm training, in excess of the standards set forth for the firearm safety training course, as a component of their service or profession (e.g., the New York State Basic Course for Police Officers).
Q18) If I only want a firearm in my residence and do not want to carry concealed, do I still have to take the firearm safety training?
A) No. Premises license holders are not required to take the firearm safety training course. The firearm safety training course requirement applies to concealed carry licenses.
Semi-Automatic Rifle License
Q19) How do I apply for a Semi-Automatic Rifle License?
A) Starting September 4, 2022, you may apply for a Semi-Automatic Rifle License through your county/local licensing officer. Existing firearm license holders can add a Semi-Automatic Rifle to their firearm license through their local licensing officer.
A Semi-Automatic Rifle License is required to purchase or take ownership of a semi- automatic rifle on or after September 4, 2022.
Q20) Do I need a Semi-Automatic Rifle License to keep a semi-automatic rifle I currently own?
A) Any person that lawfully possesses a semi-automatic rifle prior to September 4, 2022, will not be required to obtain the Semi-Automatic Rifle License.
The Semi-Automatic Rifle License is only required for persons acquiring a semi- automatic rifle on or after September 4, 2022.
Q21) Has the age requirement changed to acquire and/or possess a semi- automatic rifle?
A) Yes. Starting on September 4, 2022, the minimum age to purchase or take ownership of a semi-automatic rifle is 21 years old. If you are younger than 21 years old, and lawfully acquired a semi-automatic rifle prior to September 4, 2022, you may continue to possess that rifle.
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Restrictions on Carrying Firearms in Certain Locations
Q22) Are individuals who have a premises license now able to carry a concealed pistol or revolver outside their home?
A) No. You would need to obtain a concealed carry license. You cannot legally carry a concealed pistol or revolver outside of your home in New York State if you only have a premises license, which only allows you to possess a pistol or revolver in your home or place of business.
Q23) What are the places, under the new law, where I cannot bring a firearm, rifle, or shotgun?
A) Effective September 1, 2022, the possession of a firearm, rifle, or shotgun is prohibited in sensitive locations. Under the law, the following are considered sensitive locations:
• Any location owned or under control of federal, state, or local government for the purpose of government administration, including courts;
• Any location providing health, behavioral health, or chemical dependence care or services;
• Places of worship or religious observation;
• Libraries, public playgrounds, public parks, and zoos;
• NYS Office of Children and Family Service licensed or funded facilities (child-
care facilities);
• Nursery schools, preschools, summer camps;
• NYS Office for People with Developmental Disabilities licensed or funded
facilities;
• NYS Office of Addiction Services and Supports licensed or funded facilities;
• NYS Office of Mental Health licensed or funded facilities;
• NYS Office of Temporary and Disability Assistance licensed or funded facilities;
• Homeless shelters, family shelters, domestic violence shelters;
• NYS Department of Health licensed or funded residential facilities;
• Colleges, universities, private schools, public schools, and other educational
institutions;
• Public transportation and transit facilities;
• Bars and restaurants serving alcohol, and on-premises cannabis consumption
locations;
• Theaters, stadiums, racetracks, museums, amusement parks, performance
venues, concert halls, exhibit halls, conference centers, banquet halls, gaming
facilities, video lottery terminal facilities as licensed by the gaming commission;
• Polling places;
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• Public sidewalks and other public areas that are restricted from general public access for a limited time or special event;
• Gatherings of people to collectively express their constitutional rights to assemble or protest; and
• Times Square (with boundaries determined by New York City).
Q24) If I have a concealed carry license, can I carry my pistol or revolver to
sensitive locations?
A) No. Subject to exceptions for certain individuals (see Question 25), Penal Law §265.01-e prohibits bringing any pistol, revolver, rifle, shotgun or any other firearm to a sensitive location – even if you have a concealed carry license.
Q25) Are there any exceptions to this rule? Is anyone exempt from the prohibition of possession of firearms, rifles, or shotguns in sensitive locations?
A) Yes, the law exempts the following persons:
• Police officers in New York State, as defined in Criminal Procedure Law
§ 1.20(34), and those who were employed as police officers in New York State
but are retired;
• Retired law enforcement officers who qualify under 18 U.S.C. 926(C)(the Law
Enforcement Officers Safety Act, or LEOSA);
• Peace officers in New York State, as defined in Criminal Procedure Law § 2.10;
• Armed security guards registered by the NYS Department of State while working;
• Active-duty military personnel;
• Persons licensed under paragraph c, d, or e subdivision 2 of § 400.00 of the
Penal Law while in the course of official duties;
• Persons lawfully engaged in hunting activity, including hunter education training;
• Persons operating a program in their home that would otherwise be considered a
sensitive location, however, such possession must comply with any rules or
regulations (e.g., safe storage); and
• Government employees with agency consent, for the purpose of natural resource
protection.
Q26) Is it a crime to enter another person’s property, also known as a “restricted location” under the law, with a firearm, rifle, or shotgun without the owner’s or lessee’s consent?
A) Subject to exemptions for certain individuals, you can only enter another person’s property with a firearm, rifle, or shotgun when the owner or lessee has specifically posted that it allowed, or the owner or lessee has expressly consented. Consent to
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carry must be reflected by clear and conspicuous signage or express verbal consent from the owner or lessee. (Penal Law § 265.01-d)
Q27) Is anyone exempt from the prohibition of possession of firearms, rifles, or shotguns in restricted locations?
A) Yes, the law exempts the following persons:
• Police officers in New York State, as defined in Criminal Procedure Law
§ 1.20(34), and those who were employed as police officers in New York State
but are retired;
• New York peace officers, as defined in Criminal Procedure Law § 2.10;
• Armed security guards registered by the Department of State while working;
• Active-duty military personnel;
• Persons licensed under paragraph c, d, or e subdivision 2 of § 400.00 of the
Penal Law while in the course of their official duties; and
• Persons lawfully engaged in hunting activity, including hunter education training.
Q28) Can I possess a firearm, rifle or shotgun in the Adirondack and Catskill Parks?
A) Certain areas of the parks are not considered “sensitive locations” under the law, as the state- owned or managed lands are legally classified as state forest preserve or are generally private lands.
There are areas inside the Adirondack and Catskill Parks, however, that are classified as sensitive locations or restricted locations under the new gun law (e.g., libraries and government administrative facilities) and these specific locations are subject to the sensitive and restricted location restrictions under the law, which are detailed in Question 23.
Please review the Department of Environmental Conservation’s FAQs for more information.
Safe Handling and Storage Law Changes
Q29) How does the new law impact transporting guns in a vehicle?
A) Effective September 1, 2022, if you leave your gun unattended in a vehicle, it must be unloaded and locked in a fire, impact, and tamper resistant storage depository that is hidden from view. Glove compartments and glove boxes are not appropriate safe storage depositories. A plastic or aluminum, lockable, hard-sided, gun case or safe will suffice for this purpose.
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If an adult remains with the vehicle to ensure security, a case or safe is not required. To prevent theft and ensure safety, it is always recommended that firearms be secured during transport.
Local rules for traveling with firearms also apply and may be more restrictive. For example, New York City requires that all guns be unloaded, in a case, and out of sight, even when you are with the vehicle (Penal Law § 265.45).
Q30) How am I required to store my guns in my home?
A) If anyone younger than 18 years old or anyone who is prohibited from possessing a gun resides in the home, all firearms, rifles, and shotguns not in your immediate control must either be:
• secured with a gun locking device (trigger lock or cable lock) that makes them incapable of being accessed or fired by the prohibited individual, or
• locked securely in a safe or secure container that is fire, impact, and tamper resistant and which is locked using a key, keypad, or combination.
Hunting and Hunting Education Activities
Q31) Where can I find more information about how the recent law changes apply to hunting and educational activities?
A) Please review the Department of Environmental Conservation’s FAQs for more information.
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[Norm DeGuerre]

One could really learn to hate "this STATE".

[usmcveteran]

F u c k Kathy Hochul c u n t.

This message brought to you by the 1st amendment until she makes another unconstitutional law outlawing criticism of her.

Nothing in this post shall be considered a threat or in any way that is illegal. By reading this post you agree to those terms and those who you share this with agrees to these terms as well.

[Norm DeGuerre]

Wait..
I read it, but do not agree to your Terms
They were stated at the End. ????

[usmcveteran]

You should know fine print is always at the bottom and I don't dictate which direction you read my statements lol. Now if you try and tell on me you're going to have to give them disclosure first which alleviates me from any wrong doing lol.

[thughes]

Fun Fact: Times Square is a "sensitive area" as of midnight tonight, therefore all business owners within that several block area that currently have a "business premises" permit to have a gun in their business for protection against robbery must now turn those guns into the licensing office or local precinct as they are no longer allowed to posses in their place of business.

They can at least take some solace in the fact that the licensing division will "endeavor to provide licensees affected by this change in law" with "alternate means to exercise their 2nd Amendment rights".

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[thughes]

What's the over/under on this thing getting whacked with an injunction before end of week?

[gtnorry]

Slim to none

[Norm DeGuerre]

Thug ..
It will never happen We are just puppets to " our" Leaders in Albany To mount a legal action will take months, if not a year And of course...
MONEY
Repercussions to Lawmakers ...??
None

[thughes]

BTW, I just realized that we can't legally carry anywhere as of today.

[stokes]

The political system in this country is so corrupt across the board that I feel we have no way to legally fight. Every liberal enclave across the country will become sensitive areas, adopting similar regulations, regardless of what the SCOTUS rules. They blatantly flout the constitution and nothing is done.They have the FBI in their pockets and most likely all the fed level agencies, CIA, NSA and all the rest.They apparently have control over the MSM.They impeached Trump for threatening to withhold financial aid to the Ukraine while video of Brandon bragging about actually doing the same thing played. They claimed Russian collusion against Trump and had an almost 4 yr investigation that showed the only collusion was done by Hillary and the DNC ( Steele dossier). Hillary illegally stored and later scrubbed 30,000 classified emails on her private server and LE shrugged.I believe this latest Trump attack is just a ploy to indict him and get the us to riot just like antifa and BLM did but this time they will be shooting the people that violate the curfews like they should have done before in Portland, Seattle etc. We will be painted as enemies of the state by the MSM and dealt with accordingly.There are 2 sets of rules, one for the left and one for the right.Prices on everything is out of control and nobody seems to care.They announce that atronomical gas prices are a good thing and a "wonderful transformation". We are done, I dont see a way back, there is talk about civil war, but how are people that oppose the government going to organize? They have control over all sources of communication, just wait til the ministry of misinformation gets started.

[thughes]

Nick Tahou's. Go get yourself a garbage plate to show your appreciation!


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[Norm DeGuerre]

I used to eat at the original one on West Main daily

[thughes]

So, you literally are not allowed to carry pretty much anywhere in NY:

https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/...s-now-a-crime/

"All private property (residential and commercial) that is not on the sensitive location list is considered ‘restricted.’ People who are licensed to possess firearms may not bring firearms to a restricted location unless they get permission from the property owner."

And, every one of you are considered to be criminals until you can prove otherwise:

"Anyone carrying a firearm is presumed to be carrying unlawfully until proven otherwise."


Guys, get the f uck out of this state! Seriously......pack your families up and go, it's a lost cause here.

[Norm DeGuerre]

I just too old to move thug
Unless some kind gentleman with 22 acres has room down South for a double wide