FIre mission (once again)

[thughes]

Take 2 minutes and follow the instructions to submit your comment with the ATF regarding bump stocks.

https://www.gunowners.org/take-actio...rc=alert040518

[Chicken Shoot]

I was going to but I don't like the way it's written. It is an admission that the bumpstock is indeed a "machinegun" and verifies the left's claim that there is only one finger pull to make the gun full automatic. It is highly catering to the left's argument. Is it possible someone changed the pre-written message? I'm not sure I trust that one T.

I am opposed to any regulation on bump stocks.

These proposed regulations would declare a “bump stock” to be a machinegun because it allows the gun to fire more than one shot “by a single PULL of the trigger” -- that is, by a single volitional function of the finger.

But federal law, at 26 U.S.C. 5845(b), defines a part as a “machinegun” ONLY if it is designed solely and exclusively to allow the gun to “fire more than one shot ... by a single FUNCTION of the trigger.”

To state the obvious, a finger is not the same thing as a trigger. And, while a bump stock is in operation, the trigger functions separately every time a round is discharged.

So these regulations are proposing a radical change -- as they effectively define a gun as a machinegun even if the trigger resets for every round that is fired, so long as the finger only pulls the trigger once.

While bump stock devices will now be treated as machineguns under these regulations, they also raise serious questions in regard to AR-15s and other semi-automatic rifles -- as they are now on the brink of being designated as machineguns by the next anti-gun administration.

In the past, one had to fundamentally change the firing mechanism of a semi-automatic firearm to convert it into a fully automatic firearm.

But now according to these regulations, a bump stock is a machinegun -- and it can "readily restore" a semi-auto into a machinegun, simply because the gun owner can effectively fire the weapon continuously with a “single pull” of the trigger. This would invoke the statutory definition for a rifle, which is classified as a machinegun (26 USC 5845(b)).

It won’t matter that a gun which is being bump fired has not been fundamentally altered. AR-15s will be on the brink of extinction once these regulations go into force.

These regulations dismiss Second Amendment protections, by appealing to the Heller court decision. But the Constitution trumps the Supreme Court -- so when the Second Amendment says that the right to keep and bear arms “shall not be infringed,” any limitation of the right for law-abiding citizens should be treated as unconstitutional.


That part I made bold is extremely poorly written. The finger isn't pulling the trigger once. It's pulling the trigger every single time it fires and resets. I really don't understand this entire letter. It's confusing and makes absolutely no sense at all. The more I read it, the more it's telling the left exactly what they want to hear and appears to support their thinking. Maybe I'm just in the wrong mindset to be reading this right now, but I really don't like it.

[thughes]

You don't have to use the language provided! GOA just provided that language for you to cut/paste into the ATF form, you can use or modify the sample they provided or simply type your opinion free-form (which is what I did). Just tell the ATF you think it's bullPePeshittata, they have already reviewed this twice and reviewing it a 3rd time is a waste. As the ATF has gone on record as saying "we cannot ban these items as they do not meet the current definition of machine gun, it will require Congress to approve a change to the language first in order for the devices to be reclassififed" (paraphrasing).

[Chicken Shoot]

Done!!

[Norm DeGuerre]

at the very least G.O.A. is proactive
where's the NRA in this ..??

ooooh, yea --
they're OK with a ban ..

[Norm DeGuerre]

Trump’s proposed regulations would declare a bump stock to be a “machinegun” because it allows the gun to fire more than one shot “by a single pull of the trigger” — that is, by a single volitional function of the finger.

But hold on a second. Federal law, at 26 U.S.C. 5845(b), defines a part as a “machinegun” only if it is designed solely and exclusively to allow the gun to “fire more than one shot … by a single function of the trigger.”

To state the obvious, a finger is not the same thing as a trigger. And, while a bump stock is in operation, the trigger functions separately each and every time a round is discharged.

So these regulations are proposing a radical change — as they effectively define a gun as a machinegun even if the trigger resets for every round that is fired, so long as the finger only pulls the trigger once.

While bump stock devices will now be treated as machineguns under these regulations, they also raise serious questions in regard to your AR-15s or other semi-automatic rifles — as they are now on the brink of being designated as machineguns by the next anti-gun administration.

[thughes]

Trump’s proposed regulations would declare a bump stock to be a “machinegun” because it allows the gun to fire more than one shot “by a single pull of the trigger” — that is, by a single volitional function of the finger.

But hold on a second. Federal law, at 26 U.S.C. 5845(b), defines a part as a “machinegun” only if it is designed solely and exclusively to allow the gun to “fire more than one shot … by a single function of the trigger.”

To state the obvious, a finger is not the same thing as a trigger. And, while a bump stock is in operation, the trigger functions separately each and every time a round is discharged.

So these regulations are proposing a radical change — as they effectively define a gun as a machinegun even if the trigger resets for every round that is fired, so long as the finger only pulls the trigger once.

While bump stock devices will now be treated as machineguns under these regulations, they also raise serious questions in regard to your AR-15s or other semi-automatic rifles — as they are now on the brink of being designated as machineguns by the next anti-gun administration.

All that is left is to add some type of qualifying language regarding "self/auto loading" in combination with each trigger "pull" (not "function") and all semi-autos suddenly become "machine guns". It's all about the words, eh Mr. Orwell?

[Norm DeGuerre]

very discerning, thug ..
these people are incredibly untrustworthy
lately, I am throwing Trump in that camp, too