The CA folks learned from little andy's mistakes

[thughes]

We all know the unsafe act requirements are clear as mud, it appears that the gun grabbers in CA are amending their version to clarify things so they don't face legal challenge down the road. Things like what exactly is a legal means to reduce magazine capacity (epoxy and a rivet), what length shotgun shell is used to calculate capacity of tubular shotgun magazines (2 3/4), etc.

https://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/a...xt-of-regs.pdf


I must say that the NRA can go f uck themselves.....asking for "money to fight the oppressive gun laws in California" (and I have told them so in no uncertain terms just recently when they called me soliciting donations). Fat lotta effort they put forth for us NY'ers 4 years ago, screw 'em!

"The NRA and CRPA have been fighting to preserve your freedom to protect yourself and your family in California for decades. With Donald Trump's victory in the presidential election and the potential for a strong pro-Second Amendment Supreme Court, it is time to go on the offensive with lawsuits challenging the ill-conceived laws created by the Legislature and Proposition 63.

WHAT EXACTLY ARE WE PLANNING?

• Legal challenges to the bans on so-called "large capacity magazines" and "assault weapons", as well as to the most egregious aspects of the new ammunition restrictions.
• Monitoring CA DOJ’s proposed regulations implementing the new laws and challenging any improper ones in court.
• Continuing to grow the grassroots structure that was created during the election year in counties across the state, which will allow for more influence at the local and state levels of government."

[Meketrefe]

California is lost. Calexit is needed. Good time to re-route Trumps wall around there.

[thughes]

While I'm at it:

Seems to me that it should be easier to go after the SAFE act, which was passed outside of standard legislative process as an emergency measure for public safety that has yet to have many of its provisions implemented 4 years after becoming law, versus the CA Prop 63 which was actually voted into law by a majority of the voters in that State.

/end rant

[Norm DeGuerre]

there is a legitimate Constitutional basis to challenge the legitimacy of the SAFEcrap I believe due to it's enactment process
I have not studied this because all the back-up Legal bailed out ---Trezmond/Bombardo, et al

this challenge has been done in Texas with the "Transportation Code", and it's unlawful enactment
it has been stalled in the Texas Courts for years, as the Courts just can not find a Date to hear the Case
in the event you do not get my sarcasm, they in no way wish to hear such Case

one of the major stumbling blocks is the whole weight of the Legal System, in any STATE

it will take an Attorney from outside of New York to make such a challenge, simply as a result of Politics here, read this is as " they would like to continue to work"
and
let's not forget that Attorneys are " Officers of the Court"
this is why they may issue Subpoenas, and other similar Court Process

essentially, the person you hire to file against the Court, is part of the Court
Attorneys have a three-tier responsibility, no matter what the public relations machine has led you to believe
1) responsibility to the Court
2) observe the Public Interests
3) the Clients interests

You ...
are #3 on that List

I know, I know ...
I am such a "debbie downer"
but
it's reality

[thughes]

I always appreciate your cheerful insights NDG.

[Norm DeGuerre]

aaaahhh ... yea
but who has ever told you the truth ..??

I left the "Farm" some 16 years ago
when I realized it was, in essence, a " Plantation "

[WARFAB]

I left the "Farm" some 16 years ago
when I realized it was, in essence, a " Plantation "

I thought you said you lived on a farm?

[Norm DeGuerre]

the Federal Reserve "Farm"
those are the people Farming You, Rockefeller's for one ..all the owners of the "Federal" Reserve Bank

look up Reagan's Grace Commission report
not one cent of Income Tax goes to run the .Gov, it all goes to the Fed Bank

[WARFAB]

I was just joking with you.

I'll go back to shopping for low income private islands now.

[Meketrefe]

Californication season 10.
Put down your trousers everyone!

[WARFAB]

I can't wait to hear the tortured reasoning the Calguns.net members come up with to explain how abiding by the new magazine capacity limits is actually defeating the law.

http://tribunist.com/news/california...utm_source=LRD

[Meketrefe]

I can't wait to hear the tortured reasoning the Calguns.net members come up with to explain how abiding by the new magazine capacity limits is actually defeating the law.

http://tribunist.com/news/california...utm_source=LRD

Don't hang out too much with the Illuminati or you might end up flagellating yourself as well.

[usmcveteran]

Look at slaughter house case heard by supreme Court long ago. Like NDG says...... Law and Constitution aren't the most important thing in court.....

[Meketrefe]

Here is a list of all the things I love about California:

...

[Norm DeGuerre]

aaahh ...
You missed the Girls, and the weather, Meke

actually, California's Laws are modeled on New York
a hundred years later, they are trying to outdo us