So I am planning to buy one or the other. Have done research before and it still the same today. Unless you are going to drop some decent coin buying a safe is not a wise investment. Most safes can be broken into with crowbars and axes or a torch. So right now I am leaning towards a cheap Stack-on locker. Looking for some advice.
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Have both. I went for a "higher" grade Stack on with a fire rating but it is essentially a locker. Wouldn't place too much reliance on it if somebody wanted what's in it but I bolted it to the floor and wall. It keeps my son and his friends away from some guns which is what I wanted it for. I keep most of what I own in a decent safe though. If you're just looking for a place to keep your guns away from kids or buy time during a break in, go for the Stack on and make sure it's bolted down.
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I have two of the non fire rated stack on lockers. I'm not familiar with the fire ratings, but I'm guessing plastic furniture isn't going to hold up well in a fire unless you drop some serious coin on a safe.NRA Life Member
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I was thinking of his cannon.
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I'd say it all depends what you're looking for. Looking to keep away from the kids get a gun locker. Have some relics or pieces close to your heart or just don't want stolen get a safe. I have my guns in a safe and ammo in lockers."I see Nuthhink..... I know nuthink!!!!!"
I still have problems.
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If you value your firearms buy a real safe with nice fireproofing and might want to put it in an area that will not burn down too much like a concrete only seller or closet. But if you have a few firearms for convenience easy access lets say in the bedroom for example and you don't care about fire damage neither
then might want to get one of those bunker hill that have a thicker gauge steel. I got a harbor freight one and did all the hacks and upgrades so it is not easily opened with a crowbar.
Many brands you can open in under a minute but not if you do the simple hacks and bolt them to the floor and/or walls.
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sooooo, I have struggled with this since I had guns stolen in 2007
basically lost all of my antique military rifles, Enfields, Garands, etc
black rifles were in a gang-box, that wasn't touched
I have a couple Stack-On lockers built into closets
concealed behind cheap wood wainscoat that has a fabric handle, and velcro to the front of the cab
only takes a second to expose the locker
more collectible stuff is in my garage which is a separate structure, again in a stack-on locker
my thoughts are, if there is a structure fire, no safe... unless ya spend $5k will help
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with all the cordless tools ( think 20v. grinder w/ cutting wheel) available these days
an expensive safe will go down just a little slower than the lockersic semper boogaloo
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Not necessarily.
First you can get a decent fireproofing for way less and also use it for papers, family pictures, etc...
They say they are easy to open but if you have hardened steel pannels with heavy gauge (some in layers) is not
an easy task. A cordless grinder will not wok. A heavy duty one will take a long time and sweat.
The super cheap lockers they are not designed to protect anything just to give a better alternative to a closet to keep the
kids away.
Things to consider can be to install the safe in an area where in case of a fire will not get so hot. Another preventive
measure might be to keep the safe concealed or covered. If nobody knows it is there then there is no easy way to open it.
Another alternative is to have it encased. That means nobody can work from the sides or the back and if they do they
will need to have through a concrete wall. And most likely they will not do that.Last edited by Meketrefe; 11-14-2016, 11:55 AM.It is a shame when people demanding tolerance, have no tolerance
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