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    Short Barreled Rifles

    Can anyone explain to me why an SBR is a class 3 weapon? Does anyone know why someone once decided that whatever falls between a 16 inch barreled rifle and a pistol needs extra regulation?

    Just curious.
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    You can't have a Pistol ..??
    we will tax you on a SBR
    or...
    kill you
    just ask Randy Weaver
    sic semper boogaloo

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    • #3
      Maybe I'm just to conditioned by the laws of New Yorkistan. I'm having a hard time thinking of how a person would be qualified to own a rifle , but not a pistol in a free state. Obviously it is a common occurrence in New Yorkistan under Sullivan, but for SBRs to be federally regulated? I don't get it.
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        Probably because they are easily concealed dealers of death, or some other such nonsense.
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        • #5
          I thought it came about during prohibition and the gangsters use of tbings like the Tommy gun. The length requirements have to do with concealability.
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          • #6
            Same reason plastic parts are far more dangerous than wood.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by WARFAB View Post
              Maybe I'm just to conditioned by the laws of New Yorkistan. I'm having a hard time thinking of how a person would be qualified to own a rifle , but not a pistol in a free state. Obviously it is a common occurrence in New Yorkistan under Sullivan, but for SBRs to be federally regulated? I don't get it.
              those laws came out of New York and Chicago
              sic semper boogaloo

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                Jester commented
                04-28-2018, 08:18 AM
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                If memory serves me well, it was post St. Valentines Day masacre. Is that correct Norm?
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              correct-o-mundo ..!!
              the Supreme Court went into this issue with a result in mind
              the Decision was that SBR's were not "military weapons", and as such not a protected class of firearm
              seems we have seen the "military" thing before .. like in Heller

              one, if they were so inclined would read Miller v. United States for further perspective
              sic semper boogaloo

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              • #9
                I'm actually quite sure that there are plenty of special forces guys that use SBRs.
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                • #10
                  Originally posted by WARFAB View Post
                  I'm actually quite sure that there are plenty of special forces guys that use SBRs.
                  I did not realize there were Special Forces in 1934 !!
                  sic semper boogaloo

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                  • #11
                    Originally posted by Norm DeGuerre View Post
                    I did not realize there were Special Forces in 1934 !!
                    If we're going to say the rationale for the ruling cannot be scrutinized under modern day circumstances, then I'm pretty sure there are all kinds of modern rulings that have the same problem.

                    Modern SBRs often face technical hurdles due to their gas system. Cutting down a bolt action is far less complicated than a semi, and I'd bet the practice of doing so was more common on a percentage basis among military members in 1934 than it is today.

                    Either way, it's BS.
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                    • #12
                      Originally posted by WARFAB View Post

                      Modern SBRs often face technical hurdles due to their gas system. Cutting down a bolt action is far less complicated than a semi, and I'd bet the practice of doing so was more common on a percentage basis among military members in 1934 than it is today.
                      No need to cut down a bolt action.........

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