Threaded or non threaded Barrel?

[Meketrefe]

Law reads muzzle break (sp), muzzle compensator OR (emphasis added) threaded barrel...

or are you saying there is no brake/compensator but the shroud performs same function?

yes because the gases will hit the shroud and then escape to the sides or how ever the shroud is vented so it might not be as efficient but the gas will bleed in similar pattern.
The shroud will put forward pressure in the stock that will hold the firearm stead for you that should result in similar effect as a break putting forward pressure on the barrel.
you know what I mean with a shroud right? it will be all around the barrel but w/o touching it. Normally they are done to protect the barrel and also prevent someone from
burning. If you use a long hand-guard the shroud also doesn't have to be that long. There are hand guards that are so long that might be longer than the barrel so in
that case all you need is a cap inside the barrel and make sure there is plenty of venting for the gases to escape. It will look ackward in that case but it should work too.
One could even make a cap in the handguard that looks like a super wide barrel but it is just a cap and the barrel is nowhere near there.

[DarthVader]

Clearing a brass over bolt jam sucks azz when you can't drop the mag.....

I totally agree with you on that part..

[Meketrefe]

Meke that is true that is why I might go with the 2nd picture I posted as it will have a detachable magazine,to be honest I just want another AR-15 no matter what, the other thing is if the Unsafeact would ever be repealed I can always change out the stock to have a normal AR-15..All I can say is at some point in time this Unsafe act will not last for ever because we all know that Coumo will not be the Governor for ever in NY..

The throsten stock looks funky but it doesn't affect any accuracy at all since the SAFE act grip BS is just cosmetic as we all know.

Also why do you want the dark storm? Are they well made and well priced and have the PRS Gen III as an alternative?

I am saying because you might be able to end up with more gun with less money up front.


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[Meketrefe]

I totally agree with you on that part..

There might be a reason for canceling the magazine release button for specialty use like only hunting or just to keep it compliant.
But for the average rifle to be useful is really a waste same as the pump AR system and other funky inventions. not really worthy
as the firearm was never intended to be like that.
Worse thing can happen you end up with one or two FRS sotcks and if the SAFE BS goes away one day you can use them
in a couple of cheap polymer lowers if you want.

BTW I have one exile adapter for a cheap tube so if you want to give that one a try that would be a huge saving for you.
I will give it to you as karma. It will be even more eclectic but will be cheaper and totally functional if you wan to put
together a budget gun.

[DarthVader]

There might be a reason for canceling the magazine release button for specialty use like only hunting or just to keep it compliant.
But for the average rifle to be useful is really a waste same as the pump AR system and other funky inventions. not really worthy
as the firearm was never intended to be like that.
Worse thing can happen you end up with one or two FRS sotcks and if the SAFE BS goes away one day you can use them
in a couple of cheap polymer lowers if you want.

BTW I have one exile adapter for a cheap tube so if you want to give that one a try that would be a huge saving for you.
I will give it to you as karma. It will be even more eclectic but will be cheaper and totally functional if you wan to put
together a budget gun.

Sounds good I could always build another AR-15.By the way I kind of like the looks of the Gen III stock..

[Tony]

widest possible sight ratio.

Please explain this term.

[thughes]

Might be a translation error (Mek speaks fluent Spanglish) but I believe we would use the term "sight radius".

[Meketrefe]

Please explain this term.

The distance from the sight posts like if you have a diopter sight way on the back of the receiver ideally close to your eyes and then one on the very muzzle
that is the longest possible distance. this gives a larger radius (less angle) so changes in your position translate in less relative movement to the target.
Also the longer the barrel, the larger is the radius so you have to move the stock more to move the same angle. So same movement is less movement on the target. It is really simple trigonometry where your stock is the opposite side to the side that should be lined up with the bore and target.

[Cgrutt]

Believe term is sight radius but I knew what you meant.

[Meketrefe]

Believe term is sight radius but I knew what you meant.

oh typo... well you know me. lol ... I try to write as fast as I think. I can actually hit 500 keys per minute on a good day. So much for autocorrect! lol

[Cgrutt]

Apparently there was some work done on sight ratio as relationship between width of front post relative to rear aperture done in connection with olympics a long time ago...

[Tony]

uh huh...

[DarthVader]

The throsten stock looks funky but it doesn't affect any accuracy at all since the SAFE act grip BS is just cosmetic as we all know.

Also why do you want the dark storm? Are they well made and well priced and have the PRS Gen III as an alternative?

I am saying because you might be able to end up with more gun with less money up front.


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Man I would love to own that rifle but in a FDE..I would also love to own one of those ACOG Scope,but there as much as the rifle are.Speaking of that what would you say is a good but not to expensive red dot that won't break the bank,I thought about a looking at the EO Tech 558 Tactical Red Dot Black but that is still to much. The one thing I was told that I should try to get or could afford is getting a Red Dot Prism sight,reason why that is because it is made to help people who have Astigmatism such as I have because I have to wear glasses all the time,it helps with focusing when looking at the red dot.I could always just buy a good quality rifle scope vs a red dot also.

I do want to have a AR-15 where I can have the ability to use a red dot/scope with back iron sights if I need to..

Here is a really good video of a guy who wears contacts explain why a Red Dot Prism works for people who have Astigmatism..So if I do not go with a scope I will definitely will buy a Red Dot Prism with a magnifier,but that will be at a later time so I can get a regular Red Dot Scope or Rifle 3 x 9 Scope for the time being,I can always use the Red Dot/Scope on a future build..

[Meketrefe]

uh huh...

yabba dabba doo!

[Meketrefe]

Man I would love to own that rifle but in a FDE..I would also love to own one of those ACOG Scope,but there as much as the rifle are.Speaking of that what would you say is a good but not to expensive red dot that won't break the bank,I thought about a looking at the EO Tech 558 Tactical Red Dot Black but that is still to much. The one thing I was told that I should try to get or could afford is getting a Red Dot Prism sight,reason why that is because it is made to help people who have Astigmatism such as I have because I have to wear glasses all the time,it helps with focusing when looking at the red dot.I could always just buy a good quality rifle scope vs a red dot also.

I do want to have a AR-15 where I can have the ability to use a red dot/scope with back iron sights if I need to..

Here is a really good video of a guy who wears contacts explain why a Red Dot Prism works for people who have Astigmatism..So if I do not go with a scope I will definitely will buy a Red Dot Prism with a magnifier,but that will be at a later time so I can get a regular Red Dot Scope or Rifle 3 x 9 Scope for the time being,I can always use the Red Dot/Scope on a future build..

you can achieve the same with a rapid scope like a 1-3 or 1-4 african series. the ocular piece must be adjusted to compensate for your vision, that always.
Then you have the option of a dot on the first plane or just a stadia in the first of second plane.
Some are so well done that there is a perfect sight picture in a wide radius with huge eye relief and this w/o being a scout or pistol one.
So you end up with the advantage of having two systems in one with a bit of magnification should you need it that is the most likely scenario with an AR.
The widest FOV is the acog but normally in x3 magnification defeating the original purpose of a wide picture with no magnification and optional dot with electronics.
In practical terms one could achieve the same with a 1.5-6 or 1-8 or even a popular 2-7. the brain has no problem in overlapping sight picture in most of those
giving a lot more versatility IMO. I am telling you after I used a lot of these systems and careful evaluation and testing. Of course we all are different but
remain open. it turns out that some popular scopes are popular for a reason. Also the aimpoint allows me for a quick system to swap between shotgun and
have one of those 45 degree mounts If I want an alternating sight but never use it with the 2-7 scope.

[Meketrefe]

regarding the FDE see if you find one in teflon finish otherwise cerakote. I bought one of the last billets from SI defense before they were bought by nemo
and pretty much doubled the prices. Same matched billets (lower and upper) they sold to the navy seals in tan color that is teflon. I also got a couple in black.
I don't like the anodiced ones but again this is relative, everyone is different.