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    This is bullPePeshittata. The politicians' leash the police and allow the rioters and looters to run wild. Multiple people get killed in the riots. An untold number of people were injured in the riots. The rioters caused billions of dollars in property damage. But then a couple defends their property with a show of force and they get their guns confiscated? Are they putting as much effort into catching the looters and people destroying property as they are in going after the McCloskeys? They're a couple lawyers. I hope they file suit.

    https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politic...e-raid-n631402

    St. Louis cops served a search warrant at 8pm Friday night reportedly to seize the guns used in the stand-off. KSDK reported that the police – at the direction of Circuit Attorney Kim Gardner – confiscated the AR-15 rifle attorney Mark McCloskey owns. The couple told police that the handgun held by Patricia McCloskey is in the possession of their attorney.

    As many as 500 protesters and demonstrators crashed through the small gate leading to the private neighborhood of historic homes, hunting for the mayor’s house. The McCloskeys were preparing[/URL] dinner when they saw the mob break into the gate and feared for their lives.

    The couple said they felt they were all alone considering that earlier in the month a mob of looters and rioters killed a retired police officer.

    Their attorney said at the time that it wasn’t as if the McCloskeys were on their front stoop with guns. … No firearms were on them at the time that they were, as property owners, standing in front of their home. “It was not until they basically were in a position of seeing and observing violence, recklessness, lawbreaking, and knowing that the police were not going to be doing anything.”

    The couple has since changed attorneys.
    Poor gun handling aside, this is still bullPeshitta.
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    I was thinking of his cannon.

  • #2
    this is interesting ..

    not prolly for the reason that you think there, willie

    but .Gov loves to prosecute "license holders"
    IRS rails Dentists, Doctors, etc
    they were both Personal Injury Attorneys ..??

    and

    they don't know my best, free Advice ..??

    Don't answer the Door !!
    sic semper boogaloo

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    • #3
      Player 3 enters the legal fight.

      https://threadreaderapp.com/threadht...316003840.html

      Section 563.031 specifically authorizes MO citizens & homeowner to protect themselves from illegal invasions & intrusions into their homes & private property. It establishes 3 principles:

      1. Missourians may defend themselves & others using physical force (including firearm)to deter the imminent use of unlawful force by another person;

      2. MOs may use deadly force against a person who unlawfully enters or attempts to enter private property owned by another & threatens to use unlawful force against another;

      3. MOs have no duty to retreat from their own residence or property when threatened by an unlawful intruder

      Further, the Castle Doctrine specifically shields Missourians who act in valid self-defense from prosecution for unlawful use of a weapon by exhibiting a weapon in an angry or threatening manner under 571.030.1(4).

      In fact 571.030.5 states: it SHALL NOT APPLY TO PERSONS WHO ARE ENGAGED IN A LAWFUL ACT OF DEFENSE PURSUANT TO SECTION 563.031.
      Thus, this is not a case where the Ds must raise a self-defense as an affirmative defense or assert the exercise of a const right as a defense to justify conduct that otherwise would constitute a crime. Exhibiting a weapon in an act of valid self-defense IS NOT A CRIME AT ALL.
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      • #4
        I'd be suing the DA for harassment/civil rights violation and cite Section 563.031 as my defense.
        Beer is like porn, you can buy it but it's more fun to make your own

        I have to bend over too far

        I get a boner.

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        • #5
          In Missouri, police and prosecutors must prove that a weapon is “readily” capable of lethal use when it is used in the type of crime with which the McCloskeys have been charged.
          Crime lab staff members field stripped the handgun and found it had been assembled incorrectly. Specifically, the firing pin spring was put in front of the firing pin, which was backward, and made the gun incapable of firing, according to the documents.
          https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/lo...=snd-autopilot
          Old enough to know better, still too young to care

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          • #6
            ^^^^

            Well this is interesting. Last I heard Mrs. McCloskey's handgun was in the possession of an attorney when the police came to confiscate, so only Mr. McCloskey's AR was confiscated at that time.

            In the most recent clip (yesterday) I saw of Tucker Carlson interviewing Mr. McCloskey, Tucker got into 'why' the guns needed to be confiscated after the media painted a target on the McCloskeys. Mr. McCloskey gave a brief explanation of how the guns needed to be inspected and he quickly added "there will be revelations forthcoming". Tucker didn't question him further about that comment, but I'm guessing this is the revelation.

            Video clip here with his inspection comments at 3:30: https://www.foxnews.com/media/mark-m...tucker-carlson

            So did the attorney who had the handgun in the mean time adjust things so that it wasn't operable (which is obviously tampering with evidence) or was the pistol set up that way from the start? Awkward question: did Mrs. McCloskey know that her handgun was inoperable?
            Last edited by WARFAB; 07-22-2020, 11:01 AM.
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            • #7
              I suppose chain of custody comes into play here, eh?
              Beer is like porn, you can buy it but it's more fun to make your own

              I have to bend over too far

              I get a boner.

              bareback every couple of days, GTG. Bareback, brokeback, same $hit!

              I joined a support group to help me deal with my social anxiety but I just can't seem to work up the nerve to go to a meeting......

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              • #8
                Originally posted by thughes View Post
                I suppose chain of custody comes into play here, eh?
                That was my first thought as well, but a bunch of lawyers risking their livelihoods by tampering with evidence?

                The one explanation I saw was that the pistol had been previously disabled for use as a courtroom prop. Given that the McCloskeys are trial lawyers, that's a plausible scenario, AND there would likely be documentation of them having used it as a courtroom prop in the past.

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                • #9
                  Isn't all that a moot point if MO Castle Doctrine is upheld (as it should be)?

                  Seems pretty cut-and-dry to me.
                  Beer is like porn, you can buy it but it's more fun to make your own

                  I have to bend over too far

                  I get a boner.

                  bareback every couple of days, GTG. Bareback, brokeback, same $hit!

                  I joined a support group to help me deal with my social anxiety but I just can't seem to work up the nerve to go to a meeting......

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by thughes View Post
                    Seems pretty cut-and-dry to me.
                    That's probably because you're a rational human being.

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                    • #11
                      110% politically motivated. This is absurd.
                      Sticky Lips at High Noon!

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                      • #12
                        Saw an article suggesting that the DA had the police reassemble the pistol so it would function in an attempt to frame the McCloskeys, but that seems like a reach considering how quickly the news got out that it wasn't functional.
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                        • #13
                          ....and common sense prevails: https://m.theliontimes.com/politics/...shing-gun.html

                          Republican Attorney General Eric Schmitt is intervening in state Circuit Attorney Kim Gardner’s legal action against Mark and Patricia McCloskey, for brandishing a rifle. The McCloskeys took up arms when extreme “anarchist” demonstrators gathered outside their home on June 28. The weapon was confiscated after the St. Louis Metropolitan Police Department searched the property.

                          “As Missouri’s chief law enforcement officer, I simply will not stand by while Missouri laws are being ignored,” Schmitt said in a video shared on Twitter. “That is why I am entering the case in terms of seeking the dismissal of the case to protect the rights of Missourians to defend themselves in their property under Missouri’s castle doctrine.”

                          Beer is like porn, you can buy it but it's more fun to make your own

                          I have to bend over too far

                          I get a boner.

                          bareback every couple of days, GTG. Bareback, brokeback, same $hit!

                          I joined a support group to help me deal with my social anxiety but I just can't seem to work up the nerve to go to a meeting......

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                          • #14
                            As it should. What a travesty that this couple was dragged through.
                            Sticky Lips at High Noon!

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                            • #15
                              Upon further review.........

                              That article I linked was from the 21st, apparently charges are still pending and state AG hasn't done dick yet.
                              Beer is like porn, you can buy it but it's more fun to make your own

                              I have to bend over too far

                              I get a boner.

                              bareback every couple of days, GTG. Bareback, brokeback, same $hit!

                              I joined a support group to help me deal with my social anxiety but I just can't seem to work up the nerve to go to a meeting......

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