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    So let's say you moved into NYS and brought a previously legal pistol with you. Now you want to get your permit. How do you make that pistol legal in NYS? Can you just put it on application or do they need a bill of sale or what?
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    Might vary county to county. The safest bet would be to give the pistol to an FFL to hold until you get your permit. Then have them transfer it to you. Another way I've read people do it is to surrender it to LE (sheriffs?) and get a receipt. Get your permit and then take custody back of the pistol. Personally I wouldn't trust LE to hold it for 6 or more months without something happening to it.

    However, either way your at great risk until it's out of your possession. Best way is to give it to an FFL in your home state to hold, move, transfer it to FFL in NY, then get permit and get it added. If you don't, your committing a felony. This is nothing to mess around with.
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    • #3
      If your already living here how do you give it to FFL? Wouldn't a FFL refuse to take essentially an illegal pistol?

      Now let's assume your not from a state immediately next to NYS how would you go about it?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by usmcveteran View Post
        If your already living here how do you give it to FFL? Wouldn't a FFL refuse to take essentially an illegal pistol?

        Now let's assume your not from a state immediately next to NYS how would you go about it?
        Same answer. It's only "illegal" here in NY for you, the unlicensed person in possession of the firearm. Transferring it to an FFL is the proper course of action, it's not an illegal gun and it is perfectly legal for the FFL to be in possession of it. Unless I'm missing something?
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        • #5
          You could physically bring it to an FFL, the sad part of NY is that you would be illegally in possession of it until you get there, even if you have a NYS permit. Hopefully you dont have a douche bag FFL like the one near Albany that turned in an out of state resident trying to sell the a handgun for $ to finish their trip. Figment is right, best bet is to keep at out of state FFL until you get permission from the almighty to have your 2A rights back.

          I'm having the same issue with my wife's grandfather's handguns. He's 96, we've hidden them so he can't find them, because I can't take them yet. I'm the only family with a permit in NY, yet can't possess them until they're transferred. We have to wait until he passes and then have power of attorney sign the forms, I add to.my permit, and then take them. Stupid as hell.
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          • #6
            I know of people who have helped take care of estates where permit information was incomplete or unavailable. The county clerks aren't typically going to fight anyone who wants to add a pistol to their permit. The county clerks also aren't really in the business of busting people who are trying to abide by the law. Obviously this varies from county to county, but generally speaking all the authorities involved would rather a pistol be on someone's permit than not. Getting the police involved is a different matter.

            I actually heard a story about a guy who was trying to add a pistol to his permit under unusual circumstances. I can't remember if it was from a deceased relative or from an estate or what. I can't remember what he said the problem was, but for whatever reason the county clerk turned him down and told him to come back later with additional information. The gist of the story was that everyone involved knew he had possession of the pistol, but the county clerk's office sent him back out the door without putting the gun on his permit. They essentially prioritized a minor clerical technicality over abiding by the law. Eventually everything was resolved and nobody had any legal issues.

            When I took the membership class for the GCL, they went over the pistol range rules and discussed how you have to be able to produce your permit at any time while using the pistol range. A guy sitting near me raised his hand and said something to the effect of "I just moved here from out of state, and you're telling me I can't use the pistol range without having a New York State pistol permit?". The person running the class paused for a second and just said "you're not even allowed to be in possession of pistols in New York State without a permit". We then moved on and everyone drew their own conclusions. I get the impression this isn't a terribly uncommon scenario. For the average law abiding citizen it probably isn't a big deal. Do something dumb that gets the police involved and it can become a very big deal though.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by thughes View Post

              Same answer. It's only "illegal" here in NY for you, the unlicensed person in possession of the firearm. Transferring it to an FFL is the proper course of action, it's not an illegal gun and it is perfectly legal for the FFL to be in possession of it. Unless I'm missing something?
              No your not missing anything.

              Thanks guys! The info is helpful. Just to be clear I have my permit and I'm not breaking any laws.
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