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  • 2018 Pistol Permit 'Renewal' Deadline

    Cheryl Dinolfo has spoken at some Monroe County SCOPE meetings and seems to be a supporter of our 2nd amendment rights. Now that she's county executive instead of county clerk, I'm not sure she has as much sway over the pistol permit application and records keeping procedures. But, I figure she's intimately familiar with the county clerk position so i sent her an email via her campaign website asking a few questions about the 2018 SAFE deadline. Anyone know if there's a better way to reach her?

    My questions were:

    1: Does the state have a centralized database of pistol permit records?

    2: Will the state request pistol permit records from all the counties after the 2018 deadline for cross referencing?

    3: Will the counties (Monroe specifically) all provide their permit holder information to the state if requested?

    4: Will the permit record confidentiality forms many of us filled out to keep our information private be any kind of obstacle to the state getting permit records from the counties?

    As far as I can tell, the permit renewal deadline will be the next test for NYS gun owners. Questions 1-3 were what I originally wanted to ask, and question 4 occurred to me as I was writing the email. The exact wording of the "public records exemption form" can be seen here:

    http://www2.monroecounty.gov/clerk-opt-out-privacy-form

    It says "pursuant to section 400.00 (5) (b) of the NYS Penal Law under the heading.

    http://ypdcrime.com/penal.law/article400.htm#p400.00

    I'm not a lawyer, and I have no idea if any of these questions are embarrassingly dumb. I doubt the state would have created a way to prevent itself from legally accessing permit records, but there are a lot of dumb things in the SAFE act.
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    I saw her present at the SCOPE meeting regarding this right before the November elections. She was asked many of the same questions and was told by the State (when she was attending a meeting of County Clerks) that they really didn't have any answers. None of the Clerks can figure out how this will be done, if at all, and the State has not provided any guidance as of that time.
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    • #3
      FWIW, my permit does NOT have an expiration date on it. FUAC!
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      I have to bend over too far

      I get a boner.

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      I joined a support group to help me deal with my social anxiety but I just can't seem to work up the nerve to go to a meeting......

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      • #4
        I'm interested in seeing what kind of response you get.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by thughes View Post
          FWIW, my permit does NOT have an expiration date on it. FUAC!
          Anyone upgrade to new plastic permit? Curious of those have expiration dates?
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          • #6
            No expiration date on mine. Orange county plastic. I've added guns since unSafe and it didn't come back with an expiration date.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by usmcveteran View Post
              I'm interested in seeing what kind of response you get.

              No idea if the contact method I used will work, but if I get a response I will post it here.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Cgrutt View Post
                No expiration date on mine. Orange county plastic. I've added guns since unSafe and it didn't come back with an expiration date.
                Orange County here too. I've got an expiration date on my plastic permit... 00/00/0000

                FUAC

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                • #9
                  If this provision of the law actually materializes, there is going to have to be a unanimous act of disobedience upon the part of all permit holder otherwise they'll pick us off one-by-one. I'd really like to see the county clerks get involved by saying FU to Albany too on this one.

                  Hopefully my plans to GTFO of NY will be in full swing by 2018 and this will be a non-starter.
                  Beer is like porn, you can buy it but it's more fun to make your own

                  I have to bend over too far

                  I get a boner.

                  bareback every couple of days, GTG. Bareback, brokeback, same $hit!

                  I joined a support group to help me deal with my social anxiety but I just can't seem to work up the nerve to go to a meeting......

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                  • #10
                    Of course implementing this "renewal" plan is a function of the NYSP and will involve the creation of a database and a full administrative staff....we've seen how well that's working with the ammo BG requirement. FUAC!
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                    I have to bend over too far

                    I get a boner.

                    bareback every couple of days, GTG. Bareback, brokeback, same $hit!

                    I joined a support group to help me deal with my social anxiety but I just can't seem to work up the nerve to go to a meeting......

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by thughes View Post
                      If this provision of the law actually materializes, there is going to have to be a unanimous act of disobedience upon the part of all permit holder otherwise they'll pick us off one-by-one.
                      I'd like to think so, but I'm not sure how it's going to go. Not registering something the state has no information of is different than not re-registering something the state already knows about.

                      If we want to get everyone to say FUAC, I think it's going to take some organization ahead of time to get everyone on board. A last minute push for non-compliance is going to make gun owners easy to divide and conquer.
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                      • #12
                        Funny how registration inevitably leads to confiscation, huh?

                        "We're not trying to take your guns...."
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                        I get a boner.

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                        • #13
                          The whole permit issue is a revenue control scam intended to make the general population feel safe by the state government doing something to control handguns withing the confines of the state while building a revenue base and keeping records.
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                          • #14
                            It's going to be a total disaster if every permit holder in NY has to renew at the same time. Mine has no expiration on it. I seriously doubt that's ever going to change.
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                            • #15
                              Make sure you mail them in to create more work
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